I will try it later.

On 2011-07-15, at 7:11 AM, Ricardo J. Parada wrote:

> 
> I have some good news.  I have a little test app with a simple Main component 
> that reproduces the problem in 5 easy steps.
> 
> Who is interested in trying it out?  :-)  You just import into Eclipse and 
> follow the 5 easy steps on the Main component.
> 
> <PageCacheTest.zip>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Jul 14, 2011, at 1:09 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:
> 
>> I have, sort of, understood this code in the past.  It is tricky, you really 
>> have to pay attention.  IIRC what it has is a two level cache for 
>> (potentially) every page in the regular cache.
>> 
>> 
>> Chuck
>> 
>> 
>> On 2011-07-14, at 9:39 AM, Ricardo J. Parada wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Oh... for reference that code in ERXAjaxSession.java looks like this:
>>> 
>>> public void savePage(WOComponent page) {
>>>             ...
>>> 
>>>       // Remove the oldest entry if we're about to add a new one and that 
>>> would put us over the cache size ...
>>>       // We do a CACHE_SIZE*2 here because for every page, we have to 
>>> potentially store its previous contextid to prevent
>>>       // race conditions, so there technically can be 2x cache size many 
>>> pages in the cache.
>>>       boolean removedCacheEntry = 
>>> cleanPageReplacementCacheIfNecessary(pageCacheKey);
>>> 208:    if (!removedCacheEntry && pageReplacementCache.size() >= 
>>> ERXAjaxSession.MAX_PAGE_REPLACEMENT_CACHE_SIZE * 2) {
>>>         Iterator entryIterator = pageReplacementCache.entrySet().iterator();
>>>         Map.Entry oldestEntry = (Map.Entry) entryIterator.next();
>>>         entryIterator.remove();
>>>         if (logger.isDebugEnabled()) logger.debug(pageCacheKey + 
>>> "pageReplacementCache too large, removing oldest entry = " + 
>>> ((TransactionRecord)oldestEntry.getValue()).key());
>>>       }
>>> 
>>>             ...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jul 14, 2011, at 12:33 PM, Ricardo J. Parada wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I don't understand the code in ERXAjaxSession.java:208-213 very well but I 
>>>> can see that the size of the page replacement cache referred to by that 
>>>> code is growing with every AJAX request until it is >= two times the size 
>>>> specified by er.extensions.maxPageReplacementCacheSize.  From there on it 
>>>> removes entries from there.
>>>> 
>>>> At this point if I close the dialog (AMD) and then click on the link on 
>>>> the page I get the "You backtracked too far" error.
>>>> 
>>>> Anybody understands that code?  :-)
>>>> 
>>>> I'm gonna compare with my test Wonder app which all it has is the AMD and 
>>>> link on the page to test this and try to find out why I don't get the 
>>>> error there.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Jul 14, 2011, at 12:11 PM, Ricardo J. Parada wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I don't get the error if I set 
>>>>> er.extensions.maxPageReplacementCacheSize=50 in my Properties.dev file.
>>>>> 
>>>>> So now I'm focusing on ERXAjaxSession.java:208-213 to see if that code to 
>>>>> try to figure out if that code has anything to do with the problem I have 
>>>>> when I reduce the cache size.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 13, 2011, at 10:36 PM, Alexis Tual wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> have you tried to raise the er.extensions.maxPageReplacementCacheSize 
>>>>>> (default is 30) ? It should delay the page restauration error, not 
>>>>>> fixing the real issue... and if you have few users and enough memory, it 
>>>>>> might be the cheapest way to get it done. 
>>>>>> Anyway, I filled a jira for this a year ago 
>>>>>> http://issues.objectstyle.org/jira/browse/WONDER-545 (Don't try the 
>>>>>> attached patch though, it's worse :))
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Still in Quebec, back to Poutine free area soon
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Alex
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Le 12 juil. 2011 à 19:29, Ricardo J. Parada a écrit :
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Jul 12, 2011, at 5:53 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Jul 12, 2011, at 2:45 PM, Ricardo J. Parada wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Jul 12, 2011, at 4:52 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Ricardo,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 12, 2011, at 1:35 PM, Ricardo J. Parada wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Does anybody have an idea what could be causing this problem?  The 
>>>>>>>>>>> user clicks on an AjaxModalDialogOpener which opens the dialog.  
>>>>>>>>>>> Then the user does a whole bunch of stuff in the dialog that 
>>>>>>>>>>> involves many clicks
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Does it still happen if they don't make so many clicks?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> If they make a few clicks then it works okay.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> then finally clicks a DONE link to close the dialog.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Are all of these links and clicks Ajax actions?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Yes, they are clicking on links generated by AjaxSubmitButton 
>>>>>>>>> components to be exact.  :-)
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> And you are certain that there are no /wo/ or /wa/ requests mixed in 
>>>>>>>> here?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I set this property in my Properties.dev:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> log4j.logger.er.extensions.ERXApplication.RequestHandling=DEBUG
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> and then I looked at all the uri's of the requests coming in.  They 
>>>>>>> have /ajax/ in there and when the dialog first comes up I see a few 
>>>>>>> /_wr_/ and I guess the browser caches those since I don't see requests 
>>>>>>> for those anymore on subsequent requests after the dialog is displayed.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> All the requests for the "many clicks" I mentioned have /ajax/ in them. 
>>>>>>>  I don't see any /wo/ requests mixed in.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Also I set a breakpoint in ERXAjaxSession.java at the only place it 
>>>>>>> calls super.savePage() where I assume the current page would be saved 
>>>>>>> but I never hit the breakpoint.  I would think that regular component 
>>>>>>> requests would be generating new context IDs and therefore saving the 
>>>>>>> page in the cache for those context IDs.  But I don't see the page 
>>>>>>> getting saved.  :-/
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> The dialog has a closeUpdateContainerID bound with the id of an 
>>>>>>>>>>> ajax update container to refresh, which it does refresh upon 
>>>>>>>>>>> closing the dialog.  But then the user clicks on a link on the page 
>>>>>>>>>>> that is outside the refreshed AjaxUpdateContainer and the app 
>>>>>>>>>>> displays the error "You backtracked too far.  The application 
>>>>>>>>>>> backtracking limit of 30 has been exceeded."
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Ajax links or regular component actions links?  I do what seems to 
>>>>>>>>>> be the same thing (except maybe the "does a whole bunch of stuff in 
>>>>>>>>>> the dialog") and have not had any problems.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> They are regular component action links.  The context ID for which 
>>>>>>>>> the page is being restored is 22.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> The original URL is 21?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Well, I just put in there a <wo:link string="test" action="$test"/> and 
>>>>>>> by inspecting that link after I close the ajax modal dialog and the 
>>>>>>> update container refreshes the href for the link is:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> http://192.168.1.9:53295/cgi-bin/WebObjects/Phynance.woa/wo/EmqPpwSYBiOiS7PPSLDXzw/8.0.0.9.1.1.13.1.5.1.2.1.1.3.51
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> and clicking that generates the "You backtracked too far" error.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> The key to tracking this down is to know if it is the Ajax or the 
>>>>>>>>>> regular page cache that is missing the component.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I'm stepping through the restorePageForContextID() in 
>>>>>>>>> ERXAjaxSession.java but I'm not sure what to look for.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Sorry, I just meant if the URL that caused the error was a /ajax/ or 
>>>>>>>> /wo/ URL.  It sounds like a /wo/ URL so that suggests to me that 
>>>>>>>> something in your dialog is generating /wo/ or /wa/ requests that are 
>>>>>>>> pushing the page out of the standard page cache.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I did not see any /wo/ nor /wa/ requests.  They are all /ajax/ requests.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Maybe I'll try to create a test Wonder app with an ajax modal dialog 
>>>>>>> with a single ajax link in it that displays the current time when 
>>>>>>> clicked... Then I can click it many many times.  Then close the dialog 
>>>>>>> and then click on a link on the page afterwards to see if I can 
>>>>>>> reproduce.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Chuck
>>>>>>>> 
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