Hey,

  Nah, don't even compare it. You can fully trust the JVM/JDK, there are 
literally millions, tens of millions of dollars maybe invested on it. You can't 
say the same about LISP and smalltalk runtime environments.

  Regards,

Miguel Arroz

On 2011-09-28, at 3:19 PM, Pascal Robert wrote:

> 
> Le 2011-09-28 à 14:41, Miguel Arroz a écrit :
> 
>> Hey,
>> 
>>   Not at all! :) I admit I did play a bit of Devil's advocate with you, but 
>> in the end it's what I felt when using, huh, alternative (esoteric?) stuff. 
>> You have to be ready to solve, by yourself, any problem that will came up on 
>> the entire stack, from the compiler/interpreter/VM to all frameworks and who 
>> knows what, because things are WAY less tested and there's WAY less 
>> resources (people, time and money) involved (which means there are WAY more 
>> problems yet to be fixed).
> 
> "WAY less resources (people, time and money) involved (which means there are 
> WAY more problems yet to be fixed)." Hum, that sounds like our community 
> too...
> 
>>   At the time, I had not enough skills to face that. Dealing with why LISP 
>> environment was not playing along with the MySQL lib on the C/C++ world, 
>> etc, was frustrating and a good eye-opener. On the bright side, I had a very 
>> simple blog for some time hosted on my home's G4 running on LISP - coded by 
>> a friend. So technically, although I didn't write it, I used a LISP web 
>> application. :)
>> 
>>   Anyway, do I see someone saying he'll do a presentation on Seaside on the 
>> next WOWODC? Because I definitely would be there.
>> 
>>   Regards,
>> 
>> Miguel Arroz
>> 
>> 
>> On 2011-09-28, at 11:29 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Miguel, 
>>> 
>>> I apologize. You are on this list more than I am. I *know* you know your 
>>> craft. 
>>> 
>>> I was overly blunt in my words and crossed the line. 
>>> 
>>> I'm sorry. 
>>> 
>>> -- Aaron 
>>> 
>>> Miguel Arroz <[email protected]> wrote on 09/28/2011 02:12:41 PM:
>>> 
>>> > From: Miguel Arroz <[email protected]> 
>>> > To: [email protected] 
>>> > Cc: Chuck Hill <[email protected]>, WebObjects Mailing List 
>>> > <[email protected]> 
>>> > Date: 09/28/2011 02:13 PM 
>>> > Subject: Re: Finding WO people for startups (cult of the dead) 
>>> > 
>>> 
>>> >   Trust me, I'm one of the most open minded persons you'll ever know
>>> > when it comes to software. :) I would use LISP for everything if I could. 
>>> > 
>> 
>> 
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