+1 On 2012-03-27, at 4:30 PM, Mike Schrag wrote: >>>> "I think we should use the funds to pay people to fix issues that the >>>> majority of users are having. The issues will be voted by the community >>>> and the most voted issues will become the highest priorities." >>> >>> That is not how Wonder was created and now how I expect that it will >>> continue. If you have a problem, learn how to fix it. Then put it in >>> Wonder. >> >> In the past, we had Apple sponsorship and most of the big additions to >> Wonder between 2007 and 2010 came from Apple… We don't have that sponsorship >> anymore, and personally I don't think we will survive if we don't pay people >> for major stuff. I don't think we will survive anyway, but that's another >> story… > Apple funded a VERY small percentage of the contributions to Wonder. Almost > all of the contributions I made came from mDimension donating their time, > bandwidth, and hardware for the good of the community. Frankly, if Apple > hadn't funded the things they did, I would have done them anyway, because I > just enjoyed making things. > > This approach of paying for fixes seems like you're just going to end up with > a collection of bounty hunters instead of a community. On top of that, > there's no way you're going to be able to afford to pay the market cost for > this work. mDimension easily donated a couple hundred thousand dollars of > time if you applied their real hourly rate to the work. So on top of > encouraging people to only give if they get paid, they're going to be paid > crap, so why would anyone even bother? > > I really don't think things are stagnant because of the lack of money. > They're stagnant because the remaining people in the community don't care > enough to contribute. I don't buy any of the "I don't know how to do X" or "I > don't have time to do X." You have to want it. I didn't know how to write > nearly any of what was in WOLips before I started working on WOLips, and > likewise with Wonder. I learned WebObjects working on Wonder. I'm would wager > that everyone who worked on Wonder was in the same category. Contribution is > also positive reinforcement. The coolest times in Wonder for me were always > when one person contributing got someone else energized to contribute and > amazing things were made. > > The real question is: Who is currently NOT contributing because they're just > waiting for a payday to do so? If you're perfectly happy enjoying the fruits > of the community while not giving back to the community, look in the mirror > for the reason it's dying. Either give a shit, or don't be sad that it dies. > > ms
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