We'll survive. Embrace the fact the community is small.
I submit that the strength of this community has always been the unique talent and clear minded architecture that addressed some of the industry's most sophisticated problems and it did this over a long period of time, up to and including today. It has never been for the popular following crowd anyway, we get what we need from the java community but we don't need magazine pundits to tout WO for our community to enjoy a superior software advantage. It doesn't matter about Apple, or if WO goes opensource, or which source lic. people use-- life is full of unknowns and those are among the unknowns that have always been that way. So, at least I'm used to it if nothing else. As soon as you show me something as genuinely useful as D2W and ERKeys and all the crazy-assed shit people have put together in one coherent methodology, all in order to make a database-web world go - then I think we all would use that. I doubt we're collectively deluded. I think WOnder is beautiful. I would not have it any other way...wiki, might need cleaning up, but this software architecture and setup is just the way it should be in so many fundamentally important ways. As to the question of sponsorship, expenses and retaining our expert pool of talent? I'd think attention to the wiki is a better investment than attempting to sell books on the subject of WO, but there are small group ways to generate either income or reason to participate - if that's what's needed such that we at the very least have got resources for the community, then I'm certain it can be done. my two cents! On Mar 27, 2012, at 7:07 PM, Pascal Robert <prob...@macti.ca> wrote: >> ... >> >>> "Better integration between WO and iOS/Android can be a big selling point >>> and a way to get new people on board. Maybe we could build a system where >>> people can upload their CoreData model and we convert it to a EOModel and >>> generate a ERRest template." >>> >>> Someone also suggested support for SQLite for Titanium. >>> >>> "We should build a slick and dead simple landing page with awesome UX. It >>> should have one goal of funneling switchers to installing tools and >>> launching Hello World. We should then optimize this landing page to death >>> via A/B tests. After building an awesome landing page, we should produce a >>> series of killer screencasts showcasing selling points of WO and try link >>> baiting on Hacker News, etc." >>> >>> I have to agree with that, but who's going to do the screencasts? >> >> Or the dead slick pages. It also seems a little misleading to get people in >> like that when what we after that is not very complete. > > Yeah, cleaning up the wiki is a priority too. A lot was done, but we still > have a lot to do. > >>> "Improvements on the development and deployment tools to make them easier >>> to work it. Make WOLips an Eclipse RCP app that will also install WO and >>> Wonder, with built-in tutorials and help." >>> >>> Again, I agree. The tools is a top 3 priority. >>> >>> "Since we will have a 3 days boot camp before WOWODC, we should record it, >>> sell the recordings and give a majority of the revenues to Paul and keeping >>> a minority as funds for the community." >>> >>> Should we do this instead of the beginner book? Or maybe a mix of both, >>> e.g. the book in ePub with links to the relevant parts of the recording? >> >> Paul may have something to say about that. :-) > > Sure :-) Maybe we can have a 150-max pages book + the recordings. > >> >>> "I think we should use the funds to pay people to fix issues that the >>> majority of users are having. The issues will be voted by the community and >>> the most voted issues will become the highest priorities." >> >> >> That is not how Wonder was created and now how I expect that it will >> continue. If you have a problem, learn how to fix it. Then put it in >> Wonder. > > In the past, we had Apple sponsorship and most of the big additions to Wonder > between 2007 and 2010 came from Apple… We don't have that sponsorship > anymore, and personally I don't think we will survive if we don't pay people > for major stuff. I don't think we will survive anyway, but that's another > story… > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/jtayler%40oeinc.com > > This email sent to jtay...@oeinc.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
