We want to go the WO-way and are asking us how we can make that way bring us 
into the future.

You propose to switch to a different lane and have us all run into another 
direction. That is a totally different discussion. We don’t want to change our 
way of programming, we just want the core to be open, extendable and fixable.

        atze



Am 12.07.2012 um 17:32 schrieb arosenzw...@clinworx.com:

> Hi WOrriors, 
> 
> I still question why we are fighting so hard for Object-relational mapping. 
> If we are contemplating doing work, shouldn't we consider going straight for 
> object databases? Take out the transcription layer. Let's get more 
> productive. Only use OR-mapping for old systems that we must interface with 
> but new work should consider the advantages of being pure objects, all the 
> time. 
> 
> Everyone has success stories. You can write a great app in PHP if you really 
> want to (though none of us would choose to). What really counts is how people 
> achieve their success and if we'd enjoy doing it in a similar fashion. For us 
> that means we want creative options and better productivity. That's why we've 
> historically chosen WO. 
> 
> Here's one success story that really peaks my interest - it drives home my 
> love/hate relationship with any ORM even one as nice as EOF: 
> http://gemstonesoup.wordpress.com/2009/03/09/why-glass/ 
> 
> It talks about GLASS as if we all know what that is. It's Gemstone's turnkey 
> solution to Internet app development... Like WO used to have. You can get a 
> brief definition here: 
> http://seaside.gemstone.com/ 
> 
> Gemstone has been used a long time with lots of data. Here's one success 
> story with a shipping company and over 1.5 billion data objects: 
> http://seaside.gemstone.com/docs/OOCL_SuccessStory.pdf 
> 
> Here's a more general listing of success stories: 
> http://gemstonesoup.wordpress.com/category/success-stories/ 
> 
> -- Aaron

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