This is on my wishlist actually. I'd like to get the internal rule modeler on par with the Mac only external one.
The one that is built in should probably work fine(and not need to use wolips server), but I haven't used it much. There may be some gotchas that I'm not aware of. Ramsey On Jun 11, 2013, at 8:21 AM, Jesse Tayler wrote: > > Now I see the RuleModeler application code in the Utilities > > I can open it in Xcode, but I'm unable to build. > > The run destination My Mac 64–bit is not valid for Running the scheme > 'RuleModeler'. > > Should I be able to build and run this app from the source here? > > On Jun 11, 2013, at 10:47 AM, Jesse Tayler <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> Thanks Ramsey >> >> this helps a lot - I think I had forgotten that maybe I used to be always >> pressing the "update" of the d2w file to get rules to stick and I might have >> had something funky with the build. >> >> I thought I'd try this "bundleless build" which I'd not heard of and went to >> the wiki: >> >>> Once the server is setup, open Rule Modeler and in the rule modeler >>> preferences, enter your password and port number there. >>> >> >> >> Ok, when I try to open my rules in "External" -- nothing happens, so I've >> been editing inline using whatever editor shows up in the edit window and I >> don't have access to preferences? >> >> Is there a Rule Modeler app that I should be using? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Jun 10, 2013, at 1:01 PM, Ramsey Gurley <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Here's what I do. I build automatically. I enable bundleless builds. And >>> although it's probably not necessary with bundleless builds, I set up rule >>> modeler to use the WOLips server anyway. >>> >>> http://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/documentation/Configuring+Rule+Modeler >>> >>> Probably redundant, but I don't think it hurts. If you are not using >>> bundleless builds, you MUST do this last step or changes in the rule file >>> are not reflected in the app until you refresh the workspace. >>> >>> This only ever fails me when I'm on stage at WOWODC. :-) >>> >>> Ramsey >>> >>> >>> On Jun 10, 2013, at 9:54 AM, Jesse Tayler wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> ok, I believe in software Voodoo - >>>> >>>> I've done some fussing with older versions of the file, replacing both the >>>> workspace and also updating the build by hand -- and aside from seemingly >>>> being impossible to update, the rule editor seems like it might be >>>> corrupting the file? I don't see anything wrong, but each time I save, I >>>> have to go back to this older file and when I touch it with the rule >>>> editor - I get all this fuss. >>>> >>>> I had for one moment after a build-clean, an update that I though took >>>> normally -- but then back to oddities. >>>> >>>> otherwise -- >>>> >>>> what's the user.d2wmodel.txt file for? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Jun 10, 2013, at 11:33 AM, Theodore Petrosky <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> do I understand that the user.d2wmodel opens correctly? >>>>> >>>>> I would, >>>>> >>>>> 1. save it to my desktop >>>>> 2. turn off "Build Automatically" >>>>> 3. throw away the user.d2wmodel.txt and user.d2wmodel files >>>>> 4. Clean the project and even Refresh >>>>> 5. open the user.d2wmodel file in ruleModeler and save it in the correct >>>>> place >>>>> 6. turn on "Build Automatically" >>>>> >>>>> run your app and see if that helps. >>>>> >>>>> YMMV >>>>> >>>>> Ted >>>>> >>>>> --- On Mon, 6/10/13, Jesse Tayler <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> From: Jesse Tayler <[email protected]> >>>>>> Subject: Re: build directory issue - >>>>>> To: "James Cicenia" <[email protected]> >>>>>> Cc: "[email protected] Development" >>>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>>> Date: Monday, June 10, 2013, 10:54 AM >>>>>> >>>>>> no, just my regular user.d2wmodel file - >>>>>> >>>>>> I had to go back to an older copy for some reason, but no >>>>>> real changes -- but now it's funky and won't update the >>>>>> build file at all. >>>>>> >>>>>> I'd think that removing the file from the build would return >>>>>> it to state, but no such luck. >>>>>> >>>>>> this one file, just doesn't want to build! >>>>>> >>>>>> this is the only error, and the app runs fine if I fix the >>>>>> file by hand -- >>>>>> >>>>>> any other thoughts on ways to force the file to build >>>>>> again? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jun 10, 2013, at 9:40 AM, James Cicenia <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Bundleless builds are an enigma. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> All I know is that I always need to remember to turn it >>>>>> off. Otherwise, I couldn't even start my app in dev. And the >>>>>> errors never made much sense. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I don't think that has to do with writing rules >>>>>> however. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Are you using a separate framework that these rules are >>>>>> in? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jun 10, 2013, at 8:07 AM, Jesse Tayler <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> what is that? I notice other resources update as >>>>>> I'd expect - such as components… >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Jun 10, 2013, at 1:04 AM, David Holt <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It might be related to Bundleless builds... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 2013-06-09, at 5:30 PM, Jesse Tayler <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I'm having a spot of unexpected trouble >>>>>> some kind soul might help me with -- >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I have noticed that I cannot readily update >>>>>> my d2w model -- a change in displaypropertykeys or >>>>>> whatever didn't show up while testing the app and I've >>>>>> traced that problem back a bit - >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I've noticed the build/ directory has the >>>>>> files which the app seems to be using while I launch from >>>>>> Eclipse, and I do NOT notice the changes I save to the >>>>>> user.d2wmodel to be propagated there? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Am I confused or did I somehow remove the >>>>>> user.d2wmodel from a path or something? It's there in my >>>>>> Resources as it has been. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Anyone have suggestions how to track this >>>>>> problem back to some root cause, or otherwise figure what's >>>>>> going on? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> It's like changes just don't take -- >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> Do not post admin requests to the list. >>>>>> They will be ignored. >>>>>>>>>> Webobjects-dev mailing list >>>>>> ([email protected]) >>>>>>>>>> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >>>>>>>>>> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/programmingosx%40mac.com >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> This email sent to [email protected] >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Do not post admin requests to the list. 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