Greetings gang, What would it take to get GNUWebStep up to the glory it once knew under NeXTStep?
V/R, Daniel Beatty, Ph.D., IEEE Certified Software Development Professional (CSDP) Computer Scientist Code 474300D 1 Administration Circle. M/S 1109 China Lake, CA 93555 daniel.bea...@navy.mil (760)939-7097 -----Original Message----- From: webobjects-dev-bounces+daniel.beatty=navy....@lists.apple.com [mailto:webobjects-dev-bounces+daniel.beatty=navy....@lists.apple.com] On Behalf Of Pascal Robert Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2015 2:26 AM To: OC Cc: WebObjects Development Subject: Re: [OT] .Net goes Open Source > Le 2015-02-05 à 02:55, OC <o...@ocs.cz> a écrit : > > On 5. 2. 2015, at 7:14, Troy Lumasag <tluma...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> What really are the problems - direct, impending or long term problems being >> as it is now? >> I can recall these stated problems if I understood it correct: > > 0. no ObjC support. To get at least a remotely similar productivity, I've > successfully managed to use Groovy with WO, but still it is a royal PITA; > whilst Groovy is worlds better than Java, it's still far from ObjC. Use GNUWebStep if you want ObjC. >> 1. porting issues(moving to future java versions) 2. single-threaded >> editing context <- Must be a bottleneck problem for multiple instance setup? > > 3. weird bugs the source of which it is quite difficult to find, > without having an access to sources (or a support who has). I'm still > rather anxious about the Case of Mysteriously Deleted EOs, see > http://prod.lists.apple.com/archives/webobjects-dev/2014/Nov/msg00163. > html > >> Sorry if I'm being naive on my question haha >> >> --Troy >> >> On 2/5/2015 11:55 AM, Timothy Worman wrote: >>> WebObjects is one of Apple’s weapons - it helps them be fluid and quick - >>> especially with the devs they have. Maybe open sourcing WO seems >>> threatening because it is a internal business advantage. >>> >>> Tim Worman >>> UCLA GSE&IS >>> >>>> On Feb 4, 2015, at 4:59 PM, OC <o...@ocs.cz> wrote: >>>> >>>> On 5. 2. 2015, at 1:42, Hugi Thordarson <h...@karlmenn.is> wrote: >>>>> Apple cares about money, not us. >>>> Oh, absolutely! Given the zilliards Apple charges for WebObjects >>>> licences... oh, wait. >>>> >>>> Actually I just don't get it -- for long long years I don't get it at all. >>>> >>>> (i) first, they seriously cripple the world's best web application >>>> framework by cutting out the ObjC support, leaving it Java-only, and thus >>>> half-unusable. >>>> >>>> (ii) then they stop bundling it. >>>> >>>> (iii) then they stop supporting it at all. >>>> >>>> All right, I can see after (i) they could hardly charge any money for >>>> licencing, whilst the support price would skyrocket; but why on earth not >>>> put it to open source at the same moment?!? >>>> >>>> The same company who is known to put _lots_ of pretty interesting things >>>> to public (see Darwin). >>>> >>>> Oh, sigh. >>>> >>>> About the only (dumb and conspirational) theory I can think of is >>>> that were the sources open, hacking App Store would get the usual >>>> 'varsity freaks pastime :) >>>> >>>>> - hugi >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> http://blogs.msdn.com/b/dotnet/archive/2015/02/03/coreclr-is-now- >>>>>> open-source.aspx >>>>>> >>>>>> The github is here >>>>>> >>>>>> https://github.com/dotnet/coreclr >>>>>> >>>>>> It’s a shame Apple never did the same with WO. >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Do not post admin requests to the list. 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