Glynn Foster wrote:

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> http://blogs.gnome.org/gman/2008/03/16/thoughts-on-a-probable-opensolariscom/

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The OpenSolaris web infrastructure has not been without problems,
however, as most of the tonic web team will attest - issues with
shoe-horning in projects infrastructure and source code management
systems, re-writing the authentication systems, a new grants and
election poll sub-system, the infamous jive-mailman bridge, planet
aggregators, bugzilla defect management systems and a whole host of
other headaches. It’s a testament to the web team, both past and
present, to have what we have. And with all its faults, it does a pretty
amazing job, with some great content there. But rarely do we provide the
opportunity for the non-contributing user to download binaries and run
them, find out about exciting technology that is available to them, and
help spread the word about OpenSolaris. opensolaris.org just isn’t that
kind of site, to some extent, and I think we can do better.
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That paragraph is largely incorrect in content, and paints a bleaker
picture than is reality. We haven't been "shoe horning" anything in,
the SCM system and the poll system are actually separate web
applications from the current portal site, although they do share a
common database. The poll system was used successfully to run last
year's election, and will be used again for this year's. The bugzilla
defect system is also a separate application.

The authentication system rewrite is being done precisely so we *can*,
if required, provide multiple web "properties" under the wider
opensolaris banner. I can't therefore understand how it is it a
"problem" that we are already doing something that will make what you
suggest possible.

You list 26 items as being potential content for opensolaris.com, of
those I could only find perhaps 2 that aren't already provided in some
form or other by opensolaris.org or by bigadmin.com. We can discuss the
adequacy of the current provision, but that is different from saying
that we don't provide such content at the moment.

I think you are conflating two distinct discussions - a discussion
about improvements to the current website, and a discussion about
segmenting the opensolaris community into different constituencies -
developer, evangelist, user and so forth.

The need for improvements to the current opensolaris.org website is
already accepted. The need for segmenting the community is open to
discussion, and I think that discussion needs to take place first before
deciding the consequences of any such split on the web infrastructure.

If the decision is that we need distinct web properties for different
purposes, we can certainly do that. In that case I think we would need
to start with an accurate appraisal of what we currently have and where
it can be found. We can then move on to discuss what needs to be added,
what needs to be removed and what needs to be moved.

A list that includes most of the stuff we already have whilst
simultaneously suggesting that it doesn't already exist doesn't seem to
be a particularly good starting point to me.

-- 
Alan Burlison
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