Bleah, sorry for the sucky formatting.  Should be somewhat improved in  
the quoted text below.


On 29 Apr 2008, at 21:57, Calum Benson wrote:

> On 29 Apr 2008, at 17:10, Stephen Hahn wrote:
>
>> If you want to get a group started to write it, I'm sure we can
>> figure
>> out how to host it.  I would like to understand how to use Bugzilla's
>> voting better, which I think is related...
>
>> (I do think that such a list needs to be connected to a bug database,
>> so that ideas progress to problem statements and proposed solutions.
>
> Perhaps, but I for one wouldn't want to see the actual voting to
> happen in the bug database.  Luis Villa, erstwhile GNOME bugmeister,
> summed it up quite nicely for me when the GNOME community last
> discussed whether to turn voting back on for its bugzilla:
>
> "Basically voting in bugzillas is nothing but a way for people to
> whine about their favorite bugs in blogs, or on /., or on whatever
> other forum, and get people to stuff the 'voting box.' Votes end up
> having no bearing on actual bug validity, importance, or severity. If
> you need your bug marked up, argue persuasively in the bug that the
> bug has a serious user impact, or provide a patch."
>
> One proposed solution was to make the vote count visible only to the
> assigned triagers/engineers, which I think bugzilla supports... but
> apart from that, on any sizeable OSS project, it's only a small
> percentage of users who ever go anywhere near the bug database, so the
> voting sample is inevitably skewed towards the sort of users who do.
>
> The comparative simplicity of Ubuntu's brainstorming pages may have
> the potential to redress that balance somewhat, but until somebody
> makes the effort to find out, it's hard to know for sure.
>
> Cheeri,
> Calum.

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