* Calum Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-04-29 21:10]:
> 
> Bleah, sorry for the sucky formatting.  Should be somewhat improved in  
> the quoted text below.
> 
> 
> On 29 Apr 2008, at 21:57, Calum Benson wrote:
> 
> >On 29 Apr 2008, at 17:10, Stephen Hahn wrote:
> >
> >>If you want to get a group started to write it, I'm sure we can
> >>figure
> >>out how to host it.  I would like to understand how to use Bugzilla's
> >>voting better, which I think is related...
> >
> >>(I do think that such a list needs to be connected to a bug database,
> >>so that ideas progress to problem statements and proposed solutions.
> >
> >Perhaps, but I for one wouldn't want to see the actual voting to
> >happen in the bug database.  Luis Villa, erstwhile GNOME bugmeister,
> >summed it up quite nicely for me when the GNOME community last
> >discussed whether to turn voting back on for its bugzilla:
> >
> >"Basically voting in bugzillas is nothing but a way for people to
> >whine about their favorite bugs in blogs, or on /., or on whatever
> >other forum, and get people to stuff the 'voting box.' Votes end up
> >having no bearing on actual bug validity, importance, or severity. If
> >you need your bug marked up, argue persuasively in the bug that the
> >bug has a serious user impact, or provide a patch."
> >
> >One proposed solution was to make the vote count visible only to the
> >assigned triagers/engineers, which I think bugzilla supports... but
> >apart from that, on any sizeable OSS project, it's only a small
> >percentage of users who ever go anywhere near the bug database, so the
> >voting sample is inevitably skewed towards the sort of users who do.

  I can accept that advice pretty easily.  I happily retreat to "please
  link, however minimally, each idea to a bug".

> >The comparative simplicity of Ubuntu's brainstorming pages may have
> >the potential to redress that balance somewhat, but until somebody
> >makes the effort to find out, it's hard to know for sure.

  Agree.

  - Stephen
  
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