Il 07/02/2015 22:01, Robinson Tryon ha scritto:
On Sat, Feb 7, 2015 at 10:12 AM, elcico2001 एल्चिको <[email protected]> wrote:
Am I wrong, or any page under /IT should be supposed to be part of the
documentation of the IT (italian) localization team?
I know that pages exist on the wiki under IT/, FR/, etc.., but I can't
remember if we ever documented how those language-specific subgroups
are intended to be used (e.g. what's in-scope for those sections vs.
what should go elsewhere). Take a look at this page, and perhaps you
have some information/advice about what kind of local content would be
in-scope?
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/TDF_Wiki/Multilingual

Well... of course everybody is free to work on any part of the wiki, but, I would take for granted that pages under /IT or /FR or /ES, should be managed by corresponding local teams, as these pages are created by local teams (and they are not, usually, translated in other languages). That's why I keep on saying this kind of wiki is just a mess...

This is one of the pages that were moved:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/IT/Localizzazione/Processo

It was moved to this other (wrong) location:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Help:Editing/it

The content of the first page had nothing to do with the second page.
What's the purpose of IT/Localizzazione/Processo ? It looks like
there's some content there relevant to translating wiki pages, but
then that section references
http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/italiano, which is the domain
used by the Documentation Team, and I get lost around there.

Yes, there are instructions for localization (general, not only wiki); we are not using odfauthors that much, we prefer to have all instructions on the wiki.


Maybe someone was trying to streamline the process of editing the wiki
and translating/localizing wiki pages, and got confused about how that
content could best be organized. If you have the time, it would be
great if you could stub-in some guidelines on the Multilingual page,
or toss out some ideas here on the list? :-)

Sorry, I really don't have time; I'm already working on guides localization to italian; and trying to coordinate the work of other volunteers, also by writing procedures on the wiki.

Anyway...my idea is to get a real multilanguage wiki, with subdomains! :)


Now this page (/Help:Editing/it) is under translation, (with the content of
the corresponding english page); and I had to recreate the page
IT/Localizzazione/Processo.
All of the translation and localization processes are quite cryptic to
me. We have top-level pages like
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Translating_LibreOffice that maybe
could live under Translation/ or Language/ or something similar?

yes I do agree this page should go under localization; something like:

https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Language/Translating_LibreOffice

as the UI translation is something contained in the more general work of localization.

For that page, I created the it correspondent, that still has to be translated:

https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Translating_LibreOffice/it


Fact is, I should only manage the wiki, to know where things should be! :)


Hope it's clear now.
Oh, it's still all a bit fuzzy, but thank you very much for trying to
help clarify things :-)

Thank you for your interest! :)
Namastè :)

Best,
--R


I repeat... best thing is to have a wiki with language subdomains. I don't know if that's so difficult to set up and manage, if it's difficult to import data from the actual wiki, but, from the user/editor point of view, there's no comparison! :)
So ... admins... please! :)
Thanks! :)

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