Hi, Le 08/02/2015 13:10, elcico2001 एल्चिको a écrit : > Il 07/02/2015 22:01, Robinson Tryon ha scritto: >> On Sat, Feb 7, 2015 at 10:12 AM, elcico2001 एल्चिको >> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Am I wrong, or any page under /IT should be supposed to be part of the >>> documentation of the IT (italian) localization team? >> I know that pages exist on the wiki under IT/, FR/, etc.., but I can't >> remember if we ever documented how those language-specific subgroups >> are intended to be used (e.g. what's in-scope for those sections vs. >> what should go elsewhere). Take a look at this page, and perhaps you >> have some information/advice about what kind of local content would be >> in-scope? >> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/TDF_Wiki/Multilingual > > Well... of course everybody is free to work on any part of the wiki, > but, I would take for granted that pages under /IT or /FR or /ES, should > be managed by corresponding local teams, as these pages are created by > local teams (and they are not, usually, translated in other languages). > That's why I keep on saying this kind of wiki is just a mess...
Their was always a difference between the NLP views and the international one ;) but, however, NLPs have specific pages that should not but touched without notice and adding a multilingual template is irrelevant for several NLP pages. We won't have a per language wiki, so we should try to organize the workflow between the wiki maintainers and the NLPs parts. > >>> This is one of the pages that were moved: >>> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/IT/Localizzazione/Processo >>> >>> It was moved to this other (wrong) location: >>> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Help:Editing/it >>> >>> The content of the first page had nothing to do with the second page. >> What's the purpose of IT/Localizzazione/Processo ? It looks like >> there's some content there relevant to translating wiki pages, but >> then that section references >> http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/italiano, which is the domain >> used by the Documentation Team, and I get lost around there. > > Yes, there are instructions for localization (general, not only wiki); > we are not using odfauthors that much, we prefer to have all > instructions on the wiki. The wiki handle several types of translation (l10n, documentation, marketing, sites) that are relevant only to NLPs. > >> >> Maybe someone was trying to streamline the process of editing the wiki >> and translating/localizing wiki pages, and got confused about how that >> content could best be organized. If you have the time, it would be >> great if you could stub-in some guidelines on the Multilingual page, >> or toss out some ideas here on the list? :-) > > Sorry, I really don't have time; I'm already working on guides > localization to italian; and trying to coordinate the work of other > volunteers, also by writing procedures on the wiki. > > Anyway...my idea is to get a real multilanguage wiki, with subdomains! :) We won't have it, so the best is to try to work all together on what we have. The next time there is a modification on your pages, please come here and ask the person who has modified it what he intended to do. In any case each modification can be reverted so you won't loose your work. The wiki maintainers on their side should check the contact of the NLP responsible mentioned on it and ask him first the what and why he want to modify the pages. > >> >>> Now this page (/Help:Editing/it) is under translation, (with the >>> content of >>> the corresponding english page); and I had to recreate the page >>> IT/Localizzazione/Processo. >> All of the translation and localization processes are quite cryptic to >> me. We have top-level pages like >> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Translating_LibreOffice that maybe >> could live under Translation/ or Language/ or something similar? > > yes I do agree this page should go under localization; something like: > > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Language/Translating_LibreOffice Yes, it should be under l10n as it's only related to UI and Help files of LibreOffice the product. The page has been created a long time ago before a more categorized wiki and at that time, we still thought that we will have a per language wiki. Cheers Sophie -- Sophie Gautier [email protected] GSM: +33683901545 IRC: sophi Co-founder - Release coordinator The Document Foundation -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: [email protected] Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
