Interesting question.

I'd back up and first reconsider are the pictures in and of themselves PHI?  
If the picture includes enough of an individual's face then I guess it is 
possible that someone could identify the subject of the picture if they 
recognized them by their face.  But just a person's identity by itself is not 
PHI.  There has to be something else disclosed that involves the past, 
present, or future, medical condition, treatment, etc.  Even if the picture 
does show the patient's face, does the person developing the picture know 
they are developing picutres from a health care provider and that they are 
specifically developing pictures of a patient?

The same goes for the pictures that are developed at the local pharmacy by 
the nursing staff.  How does anyone know that the pictures being developed 
are of patients and not the nurse's children or nieces and nephews?

This is similar to a question I asked this list serv a while ago about 
pictures of patients on the walls of doctor's offices.  I have a few clients 
who have treated atheletes or astronauts and they have been given pictures by 
these patients to hang on their office walls.  Some of the picture have 
nothing other than the patient's signature/autograph.  Others have 
inscirptions such as "Dear Doctor Smith, thanks for the excellent care".

If the picture only has an autograph or signature, I think it is OK.  People 
might assume from the picture that the photograph is of a patient but how do 
they know it is not just a friend or in the case of atheletes, maybe the 
doctor is just a fan?  If the picture has an inscription like the one I cited 
above, that specifically recognizes the doctor-patient relationship, then I 
think it crosses the line and becomes a disclosure of PHI.  Those pictures 
should come down or have the patient sign an authorization. 

Noel Chang
Integral Practice Solutions
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From: "Oriol, Albert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WEDI SNIP Privacy Workgroup List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 19:17:19 -0700
Subject: developing pictures

> Here's a good one I had not heard to date.  We often take photos. 
> Most of the ones that are taken for medical reasons require quality 
> developing and thus are developed in-house or taken to a top notch shop
> 
> (with whom, I'd think if needed we could have a BA agreement in 
> place) -- Question, what do you all think, assuming the pictures 
> will show identifying information? 
>  
> The other situation is that of pictures taken for projects for our 
> kids, or for some newsletter. We're a kid's hospital and for 
> instance we might want to have kids build something with their 
> picture to give mom for mother's day. These types of pictures most 
> likely just get developed at whatever pharmacy happens to be on the 
> way of a nurse's or other professional's way home.  How should we 
> handle those?  Take all our pictures to the place(s) we have BA's in 
> place and only there? 
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> a.
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