My example is this:
Payer A requires me to use code "55" in a particular data element. Payer B requires me 
to use code "66". Both are codes offered in the guide for that data element. They will 
reference their choices in their specific payer companion guides.

Would those be type 2 edits?

My dilemma is this: We are offering a tool for our community for what has been called 
type 6 edits that matches all code choices in the guides. Some payers are creating 
companion guides for rules as mentioned above. How do I explain to the community that 
first they are testing against the broad type 6 edits, then they can test with a 
specific payer guide for the edit I mentioned above? Maybe I do not have to call it 
any type?...but this is getting confusing since Type 7 in the past have been referred 
to as payer specific.



Thank you
Patrice


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From: Kepa Zubeldia [mailto:Kepa.Zubeldia@;claredi.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2002 5:56 PM
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Subject: Re: Payer Edits


Patrice,

I have a different opinion.  Some payer specific edits refer to situational 
edits (type 4) or to line of business specific edits (type 6) or even to 
limitation on syntactical requirements such as limits on loop counts or 
requiring specific provider IDs that would fit within the definition of type 
2 edits.

So the fact that they are payer specific does not make them into a type 8 
vague group.  My interpretation is that there are "HIPAA requirements" and 
"payer specific requirements"  and both types can be divided into the same 
types 2-6.  Type 1 is X12 syntax and the payers cannot define that.

Then type 7 in the "HIPAA requirements" are payer specific requirements 
defined in the implementation guide, such as Medicare, Medicaid and Indian 
Health.  A payer specific requirement that does not fit within the "payer 
specific types 2-6" would be a "payer specific type 7" sort of edit.

So, as I understand it, there is no type 8.

Does this make sense?

Kepa



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> Yes...any payer edits that are not mentioned in the X12N implementation
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