Informant.  Can you point to the section of HIPAA that prevents the use
of dummy data?

-----Original Message-----
From: govtinformant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 1:22 PM
To: WEDI SNIP Testing Subworkgroup List
Subject: Re: Defining a health care claim within the context of the 837
implementation guide

Please allow me to respond before dismissing my question because there
is no name or company attached, unfortunately it is not an option:

I am truly concerned with this statement contained in the prior email by
Julie:  "A compliant transaction will use dummy or default values in
order to achieve compliance."  

Do you really believe that is correct?  Do you also think that once
HIPAA is mandated in Oct-03(?), that we will all still be friendly in
discussing our differences in HIPAA compliance?  If so your wrong.  It's
business, and more precisely the nature of competition.  If you elect to
take the shortcut and use dummy data along the way, you can bet that a
company that took the time to apply the HIPAA rules as intended
(subjective I know, but using dummy data?) is going to make you pay.

Please do not take this as a personal attack, that is not what I meant.
I'm just surprised that someone would believe that HIPAA allows for the
use of dummy data, and there was no response from the owner of the
comment. Am I alone in this? 

Sincerely


> -----Original Message-----
> From: William J. Kammerer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002, 8:24 AM
> To: WEDI SNIP Testing Subworkgroup List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Defining a health care claim within the context of the
837
> implementation guide
> 
> Believe it or not, I am not "govtinformant" - though her prose is
> well-written and her logic irrefutable.
> 
> Nonetheless, I am disturbed by the postings to WEDI listserves from
> people who hide behind a cloak of anonymity.   It's hard to tell
what's
> going on behind the "hotmail" and "Yahoo!" e-mail IDs.  Though hardly
> cyber-terrorism, this anonymity only contributes to HIPAA hysteria -
> and it is unprofessional and unseemly in a public standards setting
> organization.
> 
> Would it be too much to ask of folks to use their full names, along
with
> their company or organization affiliations when they proffer opinions?
> 
> William J. Kammerer
> Novannet, LLC.
> Columbus, US-OH 43221-3859
> +1 (614) 487-0320
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "govtinformant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "WEDI SNIP Testing Subworkgroup List"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, 05 December, 2002 08:47 AM
> Subject: RE: Defining a health care claim within the context of the
837
> implementation guide
> 
> 
> Julie,
> 
> Where in the Implementation Guides does it say: "Feel free to use
dummy
> data to populate required elements."  If the element is required, and
> there is a description of the data that should be contained
> there.....why would you populate it with anything else?  Why would you
> think that you can?
> 
> Otherwise why would anyone change the format that they are currently
> submitting?  With your use of dummy data you can create a compliant
> claim from anything, right?  Or is there a limit on the amount of
dummy
> data allowed?
> 
> Watch out! I hear the HIPAA police knocking on your door.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Julie Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "WEDI SNIP Testing Subworkgroup List"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, 04 December, 2002 07:57 PM
> Subject: RE: Defining a health care claim within the context of the
837
> implementation guide
> 
> 
> Isn't it the job of clearinghouses to fix these issues?
> 
> A compliant transaction will use dummy or default values in order to
> achieve compliance. Yes, this is the plan for numberous BCBS across
the
> U.S., including several of our clients.
> 
> Julie A. Thompson
> Vice President, Concio
> 
> 
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