Agreed. The HIC # can be used in an 834 transaction (Loop 2000:REF*F6), which is used to enroll members in a plan. Claim info is not carried in an enrollment.
-----Original Message----- From: Patricia Gagliardi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 10:28 AM To: WEDI SNIP Transactions Workgroup List Subject: RE: TRANSACTIONS: MEDICARE CLAIM NUMBER ON INSTITUTIONAL You are correct that HIC stands for Health Insurance Claim, however, in the Medicare world it does not refer to a specific claim, it refers to the policyholder's identification number. I'm sure most of you out there are pre-Medicare, however my company administers mostly Medicare supplement plans. If you look at a Medicare ID card, the enrollees ID # is labeled "Medicare Claim Number". If you were to call Medicare for information on a specific claim, you would identify the patient by the HIC # and the claim by the ICN #. > -----Original Message----- > From: William J. Kammerer [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 10:51 AM > To: WEDI SNIP Transactions Workgroup List > Subject: Re: TRANSACTIONS: MEDICARE CLAIM NUMBER ON INSTITUTIONAL > > I didn't name these things! HIC stands for "Health Insurance Claim." > Therefore, a HIC # would be the Health Insurance Claim Number. An ICN > is an Internal Control Number (which certainly does sound like a claim > number!!). Greg asked about a (Medicare) Claim Number, not a Control > Number. Which one is it? In any case, Claim or Control, he now knows > where to stick it. > > William J. Kammerer > Novannet, LLC. > Columbus, US-OH 43221-3859 > +1 (614) 487-0320 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Patricia Gagliardi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "WEDI SNIP Transactions Workgroup List" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, 06 December, 2002 09:53 AM > Subject: RE: TRANSACTIONS: MEDICARE CLAIM NUMBER ON INSTITUTIONAL > > > I believe the Medicare claim number or ICN identifies the claim not > the subscriber. Medicare's HIC # would be the identifier for the > subscriber. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "William J. Kammerer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "WEDI SNIP Transactions Workgroup List" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, 06 December, 2002 09:47 AM > Subject: Re: TRANSACTIONS: MEDICARE CLAIM NUMBER ON INSTITUTIONAL > > > Isn't the Medicare Claim Number some kind of identifier for the > subscriber? If so, it would just be placed in the 2010BA NM109 just > like any other kind of Member Identification Number. > > William J. Kammerer > Novannet, LLC. > Columbus, US-OH 43221-3859 > +1 (614) 487-0320 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bard, Greg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "WEDI SNIP Transactions Workgroup List" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, 06 December, 2002 08:35 AM > Subject: TRANSACTIONS: MEDICARE CLAIM NUMBER ON INSTITUTIONAL > > > Can anyone assist me in locating a data element in the 837-I > Implementation Guides for Medicare Claim Number? > > Thanks! > > Greg Bard > NASCO > HIPAA Privacy and Security Project Manager > (W) 678.441.6059 > (F) 678.441.6359 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > --- > The WEDI SNIP listserv to which you are subscribed is not moderated. > The discussions on this listserv therefore represent the views of the > individual participants, and do not necessarily represent the views of > the WEDI Board of Directors nor WEDI SNIP. If you wish to receive an > official opinion, post your question to the WEDI SNIP Issues Database at > http://snip.wedi.org/tracking/. 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