That's all fine, so long as the field 'rain' comes from a single source.
Which one is it?

On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 2:10 PM Neville Davis <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Hi just revisited my weewx.conf.... I believe I only have one driver
> PiWeather, the OWFS is configured as a service as per the instructions in
> owfs.py..
> ........
> Place this file, owfs.py, in the weewx 'user' directory
> or wee_extension will install it there.
>
> To use as a driver:
>
> [Station]
>     station_type = OWFS
>
> To use as a service:
>
> [Engine]
>     [[Service]]
>         data_services = user.owfs.OWFSService
>
> My weewx.conf has
> [Engine]
>     # The following section specifies which services should be run and in
> what order.
>     [[Services]]
>         prep_services = weewx.engine.StdTimeSynch
>         data_services = user.owfs.OWFSService, user.aircon.AirconService
>         process_services = weewx.engine.StdConvert,
> weewx.engine.StdCalibrate, weewx.engine.StdQC,
> weewx.wxservices.StdWXCalculate
>         xtype_services = weewx.wxxtypes.StdWXXTypes,
> weewx.wxxtypes.StdPressureCooker, weewx.wxxtypes.StdRainRater,
> weewx.wxxtypes.StdDelta
>         archive_services = weewx.engine.StdArchive
>         restful_services = weewx.restx.StdStationRegistry,
> weewx.restx.StdWunderground, weewx.restx.StdPWSweather,
> weewx.restx.StdCWOP, weewx.restx.StdWOW, weewx.restx.StdAWEKAS,
> user.mqtt.MQTT, user.twitter.Twitter
>         report_services = weewx.engine.StdPrint, weewx.engine.StdReport
>
> In data services I also have a service  to collect temperature data from
> our aircon system to display within the skin as well as OWFS..
> As to what is seen in the log about this, is way above my pay grade....:)
>
> What is interesting about all this was that when I upgraded to 4.3 this
> month, for that day, rainRate was recorded.
> I will do the rain test as well as full restarts to see if anything pops
> up.
> The biggest change to my system of recent months has been the addition of
> a MQTT broker for the Belchertown skin...I did have some issues with rain
> being displayed in cm not mm and there is an addition to the MQTT section
> in weewx.conf to correct this...at that time I had also a section for
> rainRate but disabled it to try and fault find this
> problem....Coincidence???
> I will also disable any other skins and use just the Standard skin to
> ensure there is nothing happening there.
>
> Neville
>
> On Wednesday, January 20, 2021 at 6:45:51 AM UTC+10 Neville Davis wrote:
>
>> Hi
>> I have been using this configuration for several years......The overall
>> hardware design is my own...I am a hardware guy more then a software type
>> but had some experience with sql years ago (I am 76) and wanted use
>> replication to backup to my local nas, so I migrated to Mysql when I built
>> this system about 4 years ago....PiWeather is the driver I built to handle
>> the data derived from my i2C sensors, Davis masthead wind gear, my FARS
>> external temp sensor, and FARS fan speed monitor (to detect failure) etc. I
>> could not work out the best way to get the one wire rain bucket data into
>> weewx.....In the end it appears I do the both as drivers as you say....but
>> it has never given me any trouble..and I didn’t know any better :).
>> Before I saw this post I was planning to do as you suggest ( add water
>> and observe) and see what that gives me. We are expecting a fine day on the
>> weekend I will do it then.
>> So to get only a single driver......I am not sure how to do that I will
>> give it some thought......and that seems to be getting harder for me :).
>>
>> Neville
>>
>> On Wednesday, January 20, 2021 at 12:01:15 AM UTC+10 [email protected]
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Sorry, I did not notice that you are using MySQL (any particular reason?)
>>>
>>> I'm finding your configuration very confusing. Are you using the driver
>>> PiWeather? Or, OWFS? I'm seeing PiWeather in your configuration file, but
>>> OWFS in the log.
>>>
>>> You have a lot of moving parts in your configuration. Here's what I'd
>>> like to see:
>>>
>>> 1. Use a single driver. Don't switch.
>>> 2. Set debug=1 in weewx.conf
>>> 3. Restart weewxd
>>> 4. Pour a bit of water in your rain bucket
>>> 5. Wait a reporting cycle or two
>>> 6. Report what is in your database.
>>>
>>> -tk
>>>
>>> I'd like to see a single driver in use, then a rate event, then the
>>> database. There are too many moving parts to unravel what is happening with
>>> your configuration.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 6:37 PM Neville Davis <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi using
>>>> SELECT  dateTime,rain,rainRate
>>>> FROM    archive
>>>> WHERE   rain>0 order by dateTime desc limit 200;
>>>>
>>>> the last 200 records for rain
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 12:31:55 PM UTC+10 Neville Davis wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi
>>>>>
>>>>> Using sequel pro
>>>>>
>>>>> SELECT  dateTime,rain,rainRate
>>>>> FROM    archive
>>>>> WHERE   rainRate>0 order by dateTime desc limit 50;
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 11:55:55 AM UTC+10 Neville Davis wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>> installed sqlite3 but when run I get nothing printed. the same query
>>>>>> with rain I also get nothing printed, it just returns to sqlite3 prompt.
>>>>>> Nothing on console, user logs etc
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am going to try the same query to see if I can get the data using
>>>>>> Sequel Pro. I use this app to check my db usually.
>>>>>> I mention rainrate because that is in the Groups in weewx.conf...I
>>>>>> have not edited that part of the file, in any of my versions of
>>>>>> weewx.conf...just looking for any possible anomaly.
>>>>>> Nev
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 10:05:43 AM UTC+10 [email protected]
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Your weewx.conf seems to be configured correctly. And, it's
>>>>>>> definitely "rainRate" (not "rainrate"). Let's take a look at the 
>>>>>>> database,
>>>>>>> using the tools sqlite3.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You may have to install it:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *sudo apt install sqlite3*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *sqlite3 /home/weewx/archive/weewx.sdb*
>>>>>>> sqlite> *select
>>>>>>> dateTime,datetime(dateTime,'unixepoch','localtime'),rain,rainRate from
>>>>>>> archive where rainRate>0 order by dateTime desc limit 50;*
>>>>>>> sqlite> *.quit*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This will print the last 50 non-zero rainRates.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -tk
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 3:39 PM Neville Davis <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi I have the same problem...
>>>>>>>> We have long periods without rain then it buckets down so I have
>>>>>>>> only recently started to notice it is always zero.
>>>>>>>> I upgraded to 4.3 this month and had a reading of 2mm per hour
>>>>>>>> after a rain period...and thought the upgrade had fixed it. Then last
>>>>>>>> evening a large downpour approx 30mm in about 1 hour...rainRate = 0.0 
>>>>>>>> mm
>>>>>>>> per hour.
>>>>>>>> I have checked [StdWXCalculate] and rainRate was prefer hardware (
>>>>>>>> mine is a home brewed system, raspberry Pi with i2C sensors, without
>>>>>>>> rainRate) I changed it to software calculation. Still zero.
>>>>>>>> I then noticed this last post, but my groups have it at mm per
>>>>>>>> hour... I have noticed that the group has rainrate not rainRate, I 
>>>>>>>> checked
>>>>>>>> some old weewx.confs back to may last year they are also rainrate??
>>>>>>>> I started weewx directly and a copy of the consul log is
>>>>>>>> attached....at the beginning I also looked at old weewx.confs to see 
>>>>>>>> if I
>>>>>>>> had made any stuff ups...so this info is also in the console log.
>>>>>>>> I also looked back into mySql db and this zero rainRate has been
>>>>>>>> there for sometime..except for this one time 2.0mm per hour.
>>>>>>>> If I set debug in weewx.conf what extra data will it show??
>>>>>>>> Any suggestions...??
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>             [[[[Groups]]]]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                 group_altitude = meter    # Options are 'foot' or
>>>>>>>> 'meter'
>>>>>>>>                 group_degree_day = degree_C_day    # Options are
>>>>>>>> 'degree_F_day' or 'degree_C_day'
>>>>>>>>                 group_distance = km    # Options are 'mile' or 'km'
>>>>>>>>                 group_pressure = hPa    # Options are 'inHg',
>>>>>>>> 'mmHg', 'mbar', or 'hPa'
>>>>>>>>                 group_rain = mm    # Options are 'inch', 'cm', or
>>>>>>>> 'mm'
>>>>>>>>                 group_rainrate = mm_per_hour    # Options are
>>>>>>>> 'inch_per_hour', 'cm_per_hour', or 'mm_per_hour'
>>>>>>>>                 group_speed = km_per_hour    # Options are
>>>>>>>> 'mile_per_hour', 'km_per_hour', 'knot', or 'meter_per_second'
>>>>>>>>                 group_speed2 = km_per_hour2    # Options are
>>>>>>>> 'mile_per_hour2', 'km_per_hour2', 'knot2', or 'meter_per_second2'
>>>>>>>>                 group_temperature = degree_C    # Options are
>>>>>>>> 'degree_F' or 'degree_C'
>>>>>>>>                 group_direction = degree_compass
>>>>>>>>                 group_moisture = centibar
>>>>>>>>                 group_percent = percent
>>>>>>>>                 group_radiation = watt_per_meter_squared
>>>>>>>>                 group_uv = uv_index
>>>>>>>>                 group_volt = volt
>>>>>>>>                 group_rpm = rpm
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [StdWXCalculate]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     [[Calculations]]
>>>>>>>>         # How to calculate derived quantities.  Possible values are:
>>>>>>>>         #  hardware        - use the value provided by hardware
>>>>>>>>         #  software        - use the value calculated by weewx
>>>>>>>>         #  prefer_hardware - use value provide by hardware if
>>>>>>>> available,
>>>>>>>>         #                      otherwise use value calculated by
>>>>>>>> weewx
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         pressure = prefer_hardware
>>>>>>>>         altimeter = prefer_hardware
>>>>>>>>         appTemp = prefer_hardware
>>>>>>>>         barometer = prefer_hardware
>>>>>>>>         beaufort = prefer_hardware
>>>>>>>>         cloudbase = prefer_hardware
>>>>>>>>         dewpoint = prefer_hardware
>>>>>>>>         ET = prefer_hardware
>>>>>>>>         heatindex = prefer_hardware
>>>>>>>>         humidex = prefer_hardware
>>>>>>>>         inDewpoint = prefer_hardware
>>>>>>>>         maxSolarRad = prefer_hardware
>>>>>>>>         rainRate = software
>>>>>>>>         windchill = prefer_hardware
>>>>>>>>         windrun = prefer_hardware
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This was the first recording of a rainRate for a long time....but
>>>>>>>> only once right after upgrade to 4.3.
>>>>>>>> [image: Screen Shot 2021-01-19 at 9.06.21 am.png]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Monday, January 18, 2021 at 8:10:01 AM UTC+10 [email protected]
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It may be of interest to you that I had problems with the rain
>>>>>>>>> rate being reported as 0.00 all the time.
>>>>>>>>> I eventually tracked this down to the weewx.conf file having cm/hr
>>>>>>>>> rather than mm/hr as the measurement required. This was in the Units 
>>>>>>>>> Group
>>>>>>>>> section of Standard Report and Defaults lower down.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, 26 December 2020 at 02:02:22 UTC+13 [email protected]
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I do appreciate the guess, but I know they’re all using the stone
>>>>>>>>>> conf file since there’s only one! :-)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 24, 2020, at 6:56 PM, Tom Keffer <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hard to say without seeing the log, but if I had to hazard a
>>>>>>>>>> guess, I'd say you're not consistently using the same copy of 
>>>>>>>>>> weewx.conf
>>>>>>>>>> for all runs. One of the copies does not have rainRate in 
>>>>>>>>>> [StdWXCalculate].
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> But, that's just a guess.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 24, 2020 at 1:58 PM James Bellanca <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Appreciate the help so far. I had to wait for it to start
>>>>>>>>>>> raining again to do anything haha. And ok, so this is very strange
>>>>>>>>>>> behavior.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I stopped the weewx service, and ran it directly (log of the
>>>>>>>>>>> terminal window is attached). rainRate calculates fine, AND updates 
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> database fine, just like it should. I stop the direct run, and run 
>>>>>>>>>>> it as a
>>>>>>>>>>> service again, and it's working fine now! HOWEVER – Those results 
>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>> weird, so I did it all again from scratch - rebooted, ran at 
>>>>>>>>>>> startup as a
>>>>>>>>>>> service (no rain rate in the database again, just like before!), 
>>>>>>>>>>> stopped
>>>>>>>>>>> it, ran it directly (rain rate works fine), stopped it, started the 
>>>>>>>>>>> service
>>>>>>>>>>> (and now it works again?!). So it calculates rain rate, but won't 
>>>>>>>>>>> update
>>>>>>>>>>> the database with it, UNTIL I run it directly first, then after 
>>>>>>>>>>> that, it
>>>>>>>>>>> works even not directly... until I reboot, and it's broken again.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Any idea what would cause that bizarre behavior???
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Attaching three files -
>>>>>>>>>>> (1) weewx.log from startup (directly) through some archive
>>>>>>>>>>> cycles where it was actually raining (which you'll see near the 
>>>>>>>>>>> end).
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/iqmi3e61y1zn0yt/weewx-1224-1500.log?dl=1
>>>>>>>>>>> (2) terminal.log from running weewx directly. I can see in this
>>>>>>>>>>> that it's definitely calculating rainRate. It's just not updating 
>>>>>>>>>>> the field
>>>>>>>>>>> in the database with the value it's calculating.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/xtbilj0s1ar9fw7/terminal-1224-1500.log?dl=1
>>>>>>>>>>> (3) full weewx.log from Dec 9th (when I confided this new Pi 4)
>>>>>>>>>>> with weewx startup (as a service) through some archive cycles where 
>>>>>>>>>>> it was
>>>>>>>>>>> raining, including the direct starts today where it worked.
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/6veouk8rets8lsg/weewx-420-full.log?dl=1
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, December 24, 2020 at 1:00:04 PM UTC-5
>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The log does not include when weewx started up, so we can't
>>>>>>>>>>>> tell which weewx.conf it is using, what the sensor map was, nor 
>>>>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>>> services are being loaded. Otherwise, it looks normal. Do a 
>>>>>>>>>>>> restart, then
>>>>>>>>>>>> post the log through the first archive cycle.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> If rainRate is being calculated (and your instrumented version
>>>>>>>>>>>> of wxxtypes.py seems to indicate that it is), then, if it's in the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> schema,
>>>>>>>>>>>> it should be incorporated into the database.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> If you run weewxd directly from the command line, it will print
>>>>>>>>>>>> out all LOOP packets and archive records. What do they show for 
>>>>>>>>>>>> rainRate?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 24, 2020 at 7:56 AM James Bellanca <
>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here's a little more info. I added from log.debug lines in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wxxtypes.py rainRater class.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In get_scalar that calculated rainRate, right before "return
>>>>>>>>>>>>> rr", I added: log.debug("rr=%s", rr)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In _setup in the if not... section right before the except
>>>>>>>>>>>>> error trap, I added: log.debug("Log row %s %s %s.", time_ts, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> unit_system,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> rain)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now in the logs, I'm seeing a lot of rows like:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dec 24 10:36:56 raspberrypi weewx[18054] DEBUG weewx.wxxtypes:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> rr=(0.0010683464566929135, 'inch_per_hour', 'group_rainrate')
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dec 24 10:37:01 raspberrypi weewx[18054] DEBUG weewx.wxxtypes:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> rr=(0.0015807874015748033, 'inch_per_hour', 'group_rainrate')
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dec 24 10:42:04 raspberrypi weewx[18054] DEBUG weewx.wxxtypes:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> rr=(0.0017618897637795277, 'inch_per_hour', 'group_rainrate')
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've been watching the log for 10 mins now and I'm not seeing
>>>>>>>>>>>>> any "Log row..." debug messages.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> But, this means is calculating rainRate, but it's not updating
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the database with what it's calculating for some reason.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, December 24, 2020 at 9:39:13 AM UTC-5 James
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bellanca wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Both running on Python 3.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $ ps ax | grep python
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   831 ?        Sl   468:45 *python3* /usr/share/weewx/weewxd
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --daemon --pidfile=/var/run/weewx.pid /etc/weewx/weewx.conf
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Attaching 3 files - the weewx.conf files from both 4.1.1 and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.2.2, and the logs from 4.2.0 from 12/21 through today. It's 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been raining
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all morning today (12/24), and same thing - 4.1.1 calcs the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rainRate, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.2.0 doesn't. (weewx.conf files have been renamed to include 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the version
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> number.) Sensor maps between them are both the same - and it's 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> def getting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the rain value itself correct and inserting it to the database 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fine. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't see anything suspicious in the log, either. I appreciate 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the help!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/tfvngl92flq9a4b/weewx-4.1.1.conf?dl=1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/33uakjaj8oix3yk/weewx-4.2.0.conf?dl=1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/g9egyues81u87qj/weewx-4.2.0.log?dl=1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, December 24, 2020 at 8:15:44 AM UTC-5
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In addition to Peter's questions, what do you have for a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sensor map?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 23, 2020 at 9:46 PM p q <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any messages in the log? Did you switch python versions?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 23, 2020, 9:21 PM James Bellanca <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Btw, I've even checked/compared the rain rate data in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SDB files, and all other data is populated the same between 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the two
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instances, except the blank rain rate field. Look at the data 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the first
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 10 rows of each file for 12/21. (Ignore the fact that Excel 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> presents some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the small rain numbers exponentially - they're right in 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the database,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's just an Excel thing.) You'll see that it's adding up the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rain values
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> perfectly - just off very slightly due to timing. But, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rainRate's = 0 in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the 4.2.0 file, so it's not calculating. Any thoughts as to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> why?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Google wouldn't let me upload the files here, so here they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/9a8wicnjs4y8r0j/rainRate_12-21_4.1.1.slk?dl=0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/qcyng5ckxoiqzmw/rainRate_12-21_4.2.0.slk?dl=0
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