The Envoy is functionally identical to the VP2, which is why it reports
itself as a VP2. I'm not as confident about the WLIP, but I think it's the
same way.

On Sat, May 14, 2022 at 8:52 PM Ryan Stasel <[email protected]> wrote:

> so I have another Envoy, and a Weatherlink IP... and I'm trying to get it
> configured, but for some reason, the Envoy (and Weatherlink) are convinced
> I have a Vantage Pro2... setting it to a Vue it complains that it found a
> Pro... =/
>
> Ticket in with Davis support, but would be curious if anyone else has seen
> this.
>
> On Saturday, May 14, 2022 at 4:59:54 AM UTC-7 Ryan Stasel wrote:
>
>> hmm. weewx (possibly) has no lead to the MB crashing twice. so going to
>> flip back to ambientweatherapi extension for a bit until I can figure
>> out...
>>
>> Thank you sir!
>>
>> On Friday, May 13, 2022 at 3:04:28 PM UTC-7 Ryan Stasel wrote:
>>
>>> 1. totally fair. guessing he's not going to agree. lol. On MB you just
>>> say "Vantage" and that covers Pro, Pro2, Vue, and Envoy.
>>> 3. I'm still seeing in weewx generated HTML on occasion an "Unknown" for
>>> batt info (after changing archive interval to 5mins). It seemed like those
>>> were in LOOP packets rather than LOOP2 (or possibly other way around),
>>> which is why I set to 3 (both). I figured it was the HTML was being
>>> generated after a LOOP packet that didn't include that info, so it was just
>>> outputting unknown.
>>>
>>> On Friday, May 13, 2022 at 2:14:06 PM UTC-7 [email protected] wrote:
>>>
>>>> 1. Yours is a non-standard setup. I'd rather that the MB dev fixed his
>>>> implementation.
>>>>
>>>> 2. That makes sense.
>>>>
>>>> 3. With a 60 second archive interval, it's possible that the console
>>>> will occasionally not have seen the battery info, so it shows as N/A. With
>>>> a 5 minute interval, it should consistently show a value.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, May 13, 2022 at 10:27 AM Ryan Stasel <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Thomas. debug shows:
>>>>>
>>>>> May 13 10:21:22 raspi-server-misc weewx[6626] DEBUG
>>>>> weewx.drivers.vantage: Opened up ethernet host 10.0.6.22 on port 22222.
>>>>> timeout=4.0, tcp_send_delay=0.5
>>>>> May 13 10:21:22 raspi-server-misc weewx[6626] DEBUG
>>>>> weewx.drivers.vantage: Gentle wake up of console successful
>>>>> May 13 10:21:23 raspi-server-misc weewx[6626] DEBUG
>>>>> weewx.drivers.vantage: Hardware type is 16
>>>>> May 13 10:21:25 raspi-server-misc weewx[6626] DEBUG
>>>>> weewx.drivers.vantage: ISS ID is 1
>>>>> May 13 10:21:25 raspi-server-misc weewx[6626] DEBUG
>>>>> weewx.drivers.vantage: Hardware name: Vantage Pro2
>>>>>
>>>>> So confirmed there. =/ I've inquired with the MB dev to see if we can
>>>>> be more specific. I think the MB emulates the LOOP protocol. Any chance we
>>>>> could get some (possibly hidden) option to force the station type in the
>>>>> Vantage driver? the biggest issue right now is weewx is expecting ET data
>>>>> since it's a Vantage Pro2, but not getting it.
>>>>>
>>>>> For 2. I had the MB set, and therefore the console, set to 60 second
>>>>> record time. Which was overriding the 300 sec in weewx, so the "noise" was
>>>>> just 60 second record times vs the standard 300. Got that fixed by setting
>>>>> MB to set the console to 5 mins.
>>>>>
>>>>> For 3. That makes sense. I set those to hardware rather than prefer.
>>>>> It is still set to use both, I guess I'm curious one over the other. 
>>>>> Should
>>>>> I just use 2? 2 doesn't seem to include battery info. I do notice that 
>>>>> with
>>>>> it set to "3" (both) sometimes when weewx does it's web render it doesn't
>>>>> have battery data (just Unknown) until the next time around when it
>>>>> apparently gets that info and fills it in. What's best practice here? Just
>>>>> use 2 and change the settings back to prefer_hardware and let weewx fill 
>>>>> in
>>>>> the blanks?
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>> On Thursday, May 12, 2022 at 9:09:17 PM UTC-7 [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. The hardware type is determined by the WRD command. You can check
>>>>>> what it's returning by setting debug=1, then restarting. Look at the log.
>>>>>> The hardware type will be listed and look something like:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> May 12 15:22:59 nuc weewx[91691] DEBUG weewx.drivers.vantage:
>>>>>> Hardware type is 16
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  For whatever reason, yours must be returning 16, the code for the
>>>>>> VantagePro series.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The option "model_type" is used only to differentiate between the
>>>>>> original VantagePro, and the current VantagePro2. It is always set to 2 
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> a Vue.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2. Not sure what you mean by 'noise'. Your plots look pretty normal
>>>>>> to me. Perhaps your Vue has better resolution than your old station?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 3. WeeWX will calculate various derived variables if they are not
>>>>>> supplied by your hardware. LOOP and LOOP2 include different types in 
>>>>>> their
>>>>>> packets, most notably 'pressure' and 'altimeter', so it is possible you
>>>>>> would be switching between hardware and software origins. Personally, I
>>>>>> would pick one or the other.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -tk
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, May 11, 2022 at 9:33 AM Ryan Stasel <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks Thomas. I was looking through the Vantage driver, and was
>>>>>>> curious if there was a way to just "force" Vue. Saw something about 
>>>>>>> setting
>>>>>>> the value to 17, but not sure that is accurate. Does it read that value 
>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>> of the Envoy EEPROM? I can inquire with the MB developer and see if they
>>>>>>> have any thoughts. Since you tell the MB what station you have, seems 
>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>> it should be able to report that back to Weewx.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> One thing I do notice is there's a significant amount of "noise" in
>>>>>>> the graphs since switching over. If you take a look here:
>>>>>>> https://www.staze.org/weewx/ before about 2pm PDT when it'll roll
>>>>>>> off the graphs... maybe that's just the expected behavior with the LOOP
>>>>>>> data.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also, random, I set it to use both LOOP and LOOP2, and there's a
>>>>>>> note about setting to hardware for the values weewx would otherwise
>>>>>>> calculate. Those are currently set to "prefer_hardware". I assume that
>>>>>>> means it's still going to calculate on every packet that doesn't contain
>>>>>>> that data, so I should hard set to "hardware"? Maybe that'll remove the
>>>>>>> noise? Or is this also an MB side effect?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 6:18:38 PM UTC-7 [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1. I'm afraid I can't offer an opinion on this, because your
>>>>>>>> arrangement is so non-standard. Normally, the station type is read out 
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> EEPROM.
>>>>>>>> 2. After 30 days, the logic in the skin gives up and figures the
>>>>>>>> sensors are gone. So, you can either wait that long, or pare down the 
>>>>>>>> list
>>>>>>>> of sensors in skin.conf. Look under stanza [DisplayOptions].
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 10, 2022 at 12:52 PM Ryan Stasel <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I just flipped drivers to the Vantage driver (having previously
>>>>>>>>> used the ambientweatherapi driver). I have two questions.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 1. My page now thinks I have a Vantage Pro 2 rather than a Vue.
>>>>>>>>> I'm interfacing over "ethernet" to a Meteobridge Nano SD in an Envoy. 
>>>>>>>>> Is
>>>>>>>>> there a different value I should put in for "model_type" to reflect 
>>>>>>>>> Vantage
>>>>>>>>> Vue?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2. The ambientweatherapi driver reported battery level, and the
>>>>>>>>> Vantage one does not. But now I just have two "Unknown" values where 
>>>>>>>>> those
>>>>>>>>> go. I assume just clear out those DB entires so the template doesn't 
>>>>>>>>> render
>>>>>>>>> them? Will have to figure out what field it used for this so I can 
>>>>>>>>> null it
>>>>>>>>> out...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>
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