hmm. weewx (possibly) has no lead to the MB crashing twice. so going to 
flip back to ambientweatherapi extension for a bit until I can figure 
out... 

Thank you sir! 

On Friday, May 13, 2022 at 3:04:28 PM UTC-7 Ryan Stasel wrote:

> 1. totally fair. guessing he's not going to agree. lol. On MB you just say 
> "Vantage" and that covers Pro, Pro2, Vue, and Envoy. 
> 3. I'm still seeing in weewx generated HTML on occasion an "Unknown" for 
> batt info (after changing archive interval to 5mins). It seemed like those 
> were in LOOP packets rather than LOOP2 (or possibly other way around), 
> which is why I set to 3 (both). I figured it was the HTML was being 
> generated after a LOOP packet that didn't include that info, so it was just 
> outputting unknown. 
>
> On Friday, May 13, 2022 at 2:14:06 PM UTC-7 [email protected] wrote:
>
>> 1. Yours is a non-standard setup. I'd rather that the MB dev fixed his 
>> implementation.
>>
>> 2. That makes sense.
>>
>> 3. With a 60 second archive interval, it's possible that the console will 
>> occasionally not have seen the battery info, so it shows as N/A. With a 5 
>> minute interval, it should consistently show a value.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, May 13, 2022 at 10:27 AM Ryan Stasel <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Thomas. debug shows:
>>>
>>> May 13 10:21:22 raspi-server-misc weewx[6626] DEBUG 
>>> weewx.drivers.vantage: Opened up ethernet host 10.0.6.22 on port 22222. 
>>> timeout=4.0, tcp_send_delay=0.5
>>> May 13 10:21:22 raspi-server-misc weewx[6626] DEBUG 
>>> weewx.drivers.vantage: Gentle wake up of console successful
>>> May 13 10:21:23 raspi-server-misc weewx[6626] DEBUG 
>>> weewx.drivers.vantage: Hardware type is 16
>>> May 13 10:21:25 raspi-server-misc weewx[6626] DEBUG 
>>> weewx.drivers.vantage: ISS ID is 1
>>> May 13 10:21:25 raspi-server-misc weewx[6626] DEBUG 
>>> weewx.drivers.vantage: Hardware name: Vantage Pro2
>>>
>>> So confirmed there. =/ I've inquired with the MB dev to see if we can be 
>>> more specific. I think the MB emulates the LOOP protocol. Any chance we 
>>> could get some (possibly hidden) option to force the station type in the 
>>> Vantage driver? the biggest issue right now is weewx is expecting ET data 
>>> since it's a Vantage Pro2, but not getting it. 
>>>
>>> For 2. I had the MB set, and therefore the console, set to 60 second 
>>> record time. Which was overriding the 300 sec in weewx, so the "noise" was 
>>> just 60 second record times vs the standard 300. Got that fixed by setting 
>>> MB to set the console to 5 mins. 
>>>
>>> For 3. That makes sense. I set those to hardware rather than prefer. It 
>>> is still set to use both, I guess I'm curious one over the other. Should I 
>>> just use 2? 2 doesn't seem to include battery info. I do notice that with 
>>> it set to "3" (both) sometimes when weewx does it's web render it doesn't 
>>> have battery data (just Unknown) until the next time around when it 
>>> apparently gets that info and fills it in. What's best practice here? Just 
>>> use 2 and change the settings back to prefer_hardware and let weewx fill in 
>>> the blanks?
>>> Thanks! 
>>> On Thursday, May 12, 2022 at 9:09:17 PM UTC-7 [email protected] wrote:
>>>
>>>> 1. The hardware type is determined by the WRD command. You can check 
>>>> what it's returning by setting debug=1, then restarting. Look at the log. 
>>>> The hardware type will be listed and look something like:
>>>>
>>>> May 12 15:22:59 nuc weewx[91691] DEBUG weewx.drivers.vantage: Hardware 
>>>> type is 16
>>>>
>>>>  For whatever reason, yours must be returning 16, the code for the 
>>>> VantagePro series.
>>>>
>>>> The option "model_type" is used only to differentiate between the 
>>>> original VantagePro, and the current VantagePro2. It is always set to 2 
>>>> for 
>>>> a Vue.
>>>>
>>>> 2. Not sure what you mean by 'noise'. Your plots look pretty normal to 
>>>> me. Perhaps your Vue has better resolution than your old station?
>>>>
>>>> 3. WeeWX will calculate various derived variables if they are not 
>>>> supplied by your hardware. LOOP and LOOP2 include different types in their 
>>>> packets, most notably 'pressure' and 'altimeter', so it is possible you 
>>>> would be switching between hardware and software origins. Personally, I 
>>>> would pick one or the other. 
>>>>
>>>> -tk
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, May 11, 2022 at 9:33 AM Ryan Stasel <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Thomas. I was looking through the Vantage driver, and was 
>>>>> curious if there was a way to just "force" Vue. Saw something about 
>>>>> setting 
>>>>> the value to 17, but not sure that is accurate. Does it read that value 
>>>>> out 
>>>>> of the Envoy EEPROM? I can inquire with the MB developer and see if they 
>>>>> have any thoughts. Since you tell the MB what station you have, seems 
>>>>> like 
>>>>> it should be able to report that back to Weewx. 
>>>>>
>>>>> One thing I do notice is there's a significant amount of "noise" in 
>>>>> the graphs since switching over. If you take a look here: 
>>>>> https://www.staze.org/weewx/ before about 2pm PDT when it'll roll off 
>>>>> the graphs... maybe that's just the expected behavior with the LOOP data. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, random, I set it to use both LOOP and LOOP2, and there's a note 
>>>>> about setting to hardware for the values weewx would otherwise calculate. 
>>>>> Those are currently set to "prefer_hardware". I assume that means it's 
>>>>> still going to calculate on every packet that doesn't contain that data, 
>>>>> so 
>>>>> I should hard set to "hardware"? Maybe that'll remove the noise? Or is 
>>>>> this 
>>>>> also an MB side effect?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 6:18:38 PM UTC-7 [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. I'm afraid I can't offer an opinion on this, because your 
>>>>>> arrangement is so non-standard. Normally, the station type is read out 
>>>>>> of 
>>>>>> EEPROM.
>>>>>> 2. After 30 days, the logic in the skin gives up and figures the 
>>>>>> sensors are gone. So, you can either wait that long, or pare down the 
>>>>>> list 
>>>>>> of sensors in skin.conf. Look under stanza [DisplayOptions].
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, May 10, 2022 at 12:52 PM Ryan Stasel <[email protected]> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I just flipped drivers to the Vantage driver (having previously used 
>>>>>>> the ambientweatherapi driver). I have two questions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1. My page now thinks I have a Vantage Pro 2 rather than a Vue. I'm 
>>>>>>> interfacing over "ethernet" to a Meteobridge Nano SD in an Envoy. Is 
>>>>>>> there 
>>>>>>> a different value I should put in for "model_type" to reflect Vantage 
>>>>>>> Vue?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2. The ambientweatherapi driver reported battery level, and the 
>>>>>>> Vantage one does not. But now I just have two "Unknown" values where 
>>>>>>> those 
>>>>>>> go. I assume just clear out those DB entires so the template doesn't 
>>>>>>> render 
>>>>>>> them? Will have to figure out what field it used for this so I can null 
>>>>>>> it 
>>>>>>> out... 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks! 
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