I'm not sure why this matters. The identification is only for the tag
$station.hardware. Otherwise, it is ignored.

If you want your skin to say "VantageVue" (or, for that matter, anything
else), just replace "$station.hardware" with your preference.

Or, am I missing something?

On Mon, May 16, 2022 at 8:16 AM Ryan Stasel <[email protected]> wrote:

> Howdy Tom,
>
> So after asking on the wxforum, it sounds like for an Envoy, the station
> SHOULD be set to Vantage Pro, even if it's talking to a Vue:
> https://www.wxforum.net/index.php?topic=43911.new;topicseen#new
>
> So, seems like there might be something we need to do for the Envoy
> console with a Vue ISS? I have confirmed using wee_device that it does
> report a Vantage Pro2 rather than a Vue. So the Vue info may only report as
> expected using a Vue console (since I think the Envoy is basically the PCB
> of the Vantage Pro console, sans screen, shoved in a different enclosure)?
> On Saturday, May 14, 2022 at 8:52:51 PM UTC-7 Ryan Stasel wrote:
>
>> so I have another Envoy, and a Weatherlink IP... and I'm trying to get it
>> configured, but for some reason, the Envoy (and Weatherlink) are convinced
>> I have a Vantage Pro2... setting it to a Vue it complains that it found a
>> Pro... =/
>>
>> Ticket in with Davis support, but would be curious if anyone else has
>> seen this.
>>
>> On Saturday, May 14, 2022 at 4:59:54 AM UTC-7 Ryan Stasel wrote:
>>
>>> hmm. weewx (possibly) has no lead to the MB crashing twice. so going to
>>> flip back to ambientweatherapi extension for a bit until I can figure
>>> out...
>>>
>>> Thank you sir!
>>>
>>> On Friday, May 13, 2022 at 3:04:28 PM UTC-7 Ryan Stasel wrote:
>>>
>>>> 1. totally fair. guessing he's not going to agree. lol. On MB you just
>>>> say "Vantage" and that covers Pro, Pro2, Vue, and Envoy.
>>>> 3. I'm still seeing in weewx generated HTML on occasion an "Unknown"
>>>> for batt info (after changing archive interval to 5mins). It seemed like
>>>> those were in LOOP packets rather than LOOP2 (or possibly other way
>>>> around), which is why I set to 3 (both). I figured it was the HTML was
>>>> being generated after a LOOP packet that didn't include that info, so it
>>>> was just outputting unknown.
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, May 13, 2022 at 2:14:06 PM UTC-7 [email protected] wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> 1. Yours is a non-standard setup. I'd rather that the MB dev fixed his
>>>>> implementation.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. That makes sense.
>>>>>
>>>>> 3. With a 60 second archive interval, it's possible that the console
>>>>> will occasionally not have seen the battery info, so it shows as N/A. With
>>>>> a 5 minute interval, it should consistently show a value.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, May 13, 2022 at 10:27 AM Ryan Stasel <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks Thomas. debug shows:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> May 13 10:21:22 raspi-server-misc weewx[6626] DEBUG
>>>>>> weewx.drivers.vantage: Opened up ethernet host 10.0.6.22 on port 22222.
>>>>>> timeout=4.0, tcp_send_delay=0.5
>>>>>> May 13 10:21:22 raspi-server-misc weewx[6626] DEBUG
>>>>>> weewx.drivers.vantage: Gentle wake up of console successful
>>>>>> May 13 10:21:23 raspi-server-misc weewx[6626] DEBUG
>>>>>> weewx.drivers.vantage: Hardware type is 16
>>>>>> May 13 10:21:25 raspi-server-misc weewx[6626] DEBUG
>>>>>> weewx.drivers.vantage: ISS ID is 1
>>>>>> May 13 10:21:25 raspi-server-misc weewx[6626] DEBUG
>>>>>> weewx.drivers.vantage: Hardware name: Vantage Pro2
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So confirmed there. =/ I've inquired with the MB dev to see if we can
>>>>>> be more specific. I think the MB emulates the LOOP protocol. Any chance 
>>>>>> we
>>>>>> could get some (possibly hidden) option to force the station type in the
>>>>>> Vantage driver? the biggest issue right now is weewx is expecting ET data
>>>>>> since it's a Vantage Pro2, but not getting it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For 2. I had the MB set, and therefore the console, set to 60 second
>>>>>> record time. Which was overriding the 300 sec in weewx, so the "noise" 
>>>>>> was
>>>>>> just 60 second record times vs the standard 300. Got that fixed by 
>>>>>> setting
>>>>>> MB to set the console to 5 mins.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For 3. That makes sense. I set those to hardware rather than prefer.
>>>>>> It is still set to use both, I guess I'm curious one over the other. 
>>>>>> Should
>>>>>> I just use 2? 2 doesn't seem to include battery info. I do notice that 
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> it set to "3" (both) sometimes when weewx does it's web render it doesn't
>>>>>> have battery data (just Unknown) until the next time around when it
>>>>>> apparently gets that info and fills it in. What's best practice here? 
>>>>>> Just
>>>>>> use 2 and change the settings back to prefer_hardware and let weewx fill 
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> the blanks?
>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>> On Thursday, May 12, 2022 at 9:09:17 PM UTC-7 [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1. The hardware type is determined by the WRD command. You can check
>>>>>>> what it's returning by setting debug=1, then restarting. Look at the 
>>>>>>> log.
>>>>>>> The hardware type will be listed and look something like:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> May 12 15:22:59 nuc weewx[91691] DEBUG weewx.drivers.vantage:
>>>>>>> Hardware type is 16
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  For whatever reason, yours must be returning 16, the code for the
>>>>>>> VantagePro series.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The option "model_type" is used only to differentiate between the
>>>>>>> original VantagePro, and the current VantagePro2. It is always set to 2 
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> a Vue.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2. Not sure what you mean by 'noise'. Your plots look pretty normal
>>>>>>> to me. Perhaps your Vue has better resolution than your old station?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 3. WeeWX will calculate various derived variables if they are not
>>>>>>> supplied by your hardware. LOOP and LOOP2 include different types in 
>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>> packets, most notably 'pressure' and 'altimeter', so it is possible you
>>>>>>> would be switching between hardware and software origins. Personally, I
>>>>>>> would pick one or the other.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -tk
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, May 11, 2022 at 9:33 AM Ryan Stasel <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks Thomas. I was looking through the Vantage driver, and was
>>>>>>>> curious if there was a way to just "force" Vue. Saw something about 
>>>>>>>> setting
>>>>>>>> the value to 17, but not sure that is accurate. Does it read that 
>>>>>>>> value out
>>>>>>>> of the Envoy EEPROM? I can inquire with the MB developer and see if 
>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>> have any thoughts. Since you tell the MB what station you have, seems 
>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>> it should be able to report that back to Weewx.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> One thing I do notice is there's a significant amount of "noise" in
>>>>>>>> the graphs since switching over. If you take a look here:
>>>>>>>> https://www.staze.org/weewx/ before about 2pm PDT when it'll roll
>>>>>>>> off the graphs... maybe that's just the expected behavior with the LOOP
>>>>>>>> data.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Also, random, I set it to use both LOOP and LOOP2, and there's a
>>>>>>>> note about setting to hardware for the values weewx would otherwise
>>>>>>>> calculate. Those are currently set to "prefer_hardware". I assume that
>>>>>>>> means it's still going to calculate on every packet that doesn't 
>>>>>>>> contain
>>>>>>>> that data, so I should hard set to "hardware"? Maybe that'll remove the
>>>>>>>> noise? Or is this also an MB side effect?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 6:18:38 PM UTC-7 [email protected]
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 1. I'm afraid I can't offer an opinion on this, because your
>>>>>>>>> arrangement is so non-standard. Normally, the station type is read 
>>>>>>>>> out of
>>>>>>>>> EEPROM.
>>>>>>>>> 2. After 30 days, the logic in the skin gives up and figures the
>>>>>>>>> sensors are gone. So, you can either wait that long, or pare down the 
>>>>>>>>> list
>>>>>>>>> of sensors in skin.conf. Look under stanza [DisplayOptions].
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 10, 2022 at 12:52 PM Ryan Stasel <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I just flipped drivers to the Vantage driver (having previously
>>>>>>>>>> used the ambientweatherapi driver). I have two questions.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 1. My page now thinks I have a Vantage Pro 2 rather than a Vue.
>>>>>>>>>> I'm interfacing over "ethernet" to a Meteobridge Nano SD in an 
>>>>>>>>>> Envoy. Is
>>>>>>>>>> there a different value I should put in for "model_type" to reflect 
>>>>>>>>>> Vantage
>>>>>>>>>> Vue?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2. The ambientweatherapi driver reported battery level, and the
>>>>>>>>>> Vantage one does not. But now I just have two "Unknown" values where 
>>>>>>>>>> those
>>>>>>>>>> go. I assume just clear out those DB entires so the template doesn't 
>>>>>>>>>> render
>>>>>>>>>> them? Will have to figure out what field it used for this so I can 
>>>>>>>>>> null it
>>>>>>>>>> out...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
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