oh I'm SURE there is an attitude of, they got away with it on 9/11, why wouldn't we get away with it now? These people obviously have no respect for their own lives, not to mention anyone else's. In my religion, Judaism, if you take your own life you aren't allowed to be buried in a Jewish cemetery. At least I think that's the rule. This whole "martyrdom" thing just doesn't fly with the us Jews. Islam has been in conflict with Judaism and Christianity forever, literally, and it ain't getting any better now. Just more advanced and effective means of destruction. I don't think Mohammed really preached for his followers to destroy everyone who doesn't follow his teachings, but I honestly don'tknow for sure.
--- In [email protected], "Daria Akers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If it wasn't for 9/11 who knows if they would have been plotting this? Our > "war on terror" might be breeding terroist who feel like they have nothing > to lose and EVERYTHING (marderdom) to gain. > I could be wrong (and I am guessing that the people here will gladly share > their point) but it sure seems like the number and scale of terrorist > activities have excalated since Sept 11th. Examples the London bus/ train > bombings, the Madrid Bombings. Before Sept. 11th there were terrorost events > but not on the scale (like the Cole bombing, and the attack on the US > embassies in Africa, bombing of the parking garage of the twin towers). Not > only that but civilians are now acceptable and actually prefered targets.... > when before it seemed to be more government and military targets. > The truth is we don't know what MAJOR plans were stopped before Sept 11th. > There was no need publicize the fact that the governement stopped a plot > because the goal was not "to keep our people scared". The general public, > pre- 9/11 was oblivious to the threat and that was fine. As the government > attempts to limit personal freedoms they HAVE to keep us scared or we > wouldn't put up with it. > That's just my two cents for what is worth. > Daria > PS I am not a conspiacy freak who believes that the US helped or knowingly > ignored the Sept 11 event but I do beieve that the current governement had > plans to invade Iraq BEFORE Sept 11. > > > > On 8/11/06, Ellen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > OK point taken, this is the least of my worries. But I am pretty > > sure that if it weren't for 9/11 they wouldn't have stopped this. > > > > > > --- In [email protected]<weingartenchatters% 40yahoogroups.com>, > > "Max H." <MaxH42@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Probably anyone who regularly uses duct tape or a soldering iron > > would > > > know about the can, we even have a mass-manufactured version at > > home; > > > I also happen to read spy novels and books on computer security for > > > fun. These are like puzzles. > > > > > > For example, you could buy a can of Coke, modify it, go to the > > > airport, buy another, ditch it or drink it quickly, and use the > > > receipt to prove you just bought your modified can. Very easy. > > > > > > -Max H. > > > > > > On 8/11/06, Ellen <ellengoodman6@> wrote: > > > > I'm not sure if I really want to know how/why you know this, > > unless > > > > it is common knowledge or common knowledge among readers of murder > > > > mysteries or something. I was thinking if I bought the can at the > > > > airport and had a receipt then I wouldn't have had the > > opportunity to > > > > do all that between buying it and boarding, but now I'm just > > > > quibbling. Grrr. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected]<weingartenchatters% 40yahoogroups.com>, > > "Max H." <MaxH42@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > OK, will all terrorists please leave the chat room? > > > > > > > > > > We'll wait.... > > > > > > > > > > Thank you. > > > > > > > > > > Messing with a can of soda is quite easy. A Dremel tool and some > > > > Krazy > > > > > Glue will let you open up a can, replace its contents, and put > > it > > > > back > > > > > together so that no one would notice (if you cut right under the > > > > > folded over rim at the very top). Heck, it's a somewhat popular > > > > method > > > > > of hiding valuables. > > > > > > > > > > So my guess is that they'll only allow the prescreened beverages > > > > > brought on by the airline. > > > > > > > > > > Of course, there are lots easier ways to hide liquids than a > > can, > > > > > involving capsules, condoms, or baggies. Or one > > cleaning/maintenance > > > > > person who has access to the plane during the preboard routine. > > > > > > > > > > But don't let any of that discourage you from flying. All this > > was > > > > > possible both before and after 9/11, and the methods I've > > mentioned > > > > > have never been used successfully. > > > > > > > > > > -Max H. > > > > > > > > > > On 8/10/06, Ellen <ellengoodman6@> wrote: > > > > > > why would you have to buy them there? You can just pack them > > in > > > > your > > > > > > suitcase. As I said I'm not planning to take a shower on the > > > > > > airplane. It's the water and stuff like that, although they > > > > usually > > > > > > give you drinks even if they are skimpy on the food. What I'm > > > > really > > > > > > curious about is whether you can take unopened canned drinks > > on > > > > board, > > > > > > and if not why not. Do they really think people are > > sophisticated > > > > > > enough to mess around with unopened canned drinks? Those > > things > > > > are > > > > > > airtight. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected]<weingartenchatters% 40yahoogroups.com>, > > Tony Richards > > > > > > <tonyrichards@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well we were due to fly to Heathrow from Dulles tonight, but > > > > just > > > > > > before > > > > > > > I bought the tix > > > > > > > my son's cousin decided to get married this weekend. > > However, > > > > I've > > > > > > > rescheduled for > > > > > > > December and have no plans to cancel. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As for not carrying on toothpaste and shampoo, I remember > > > > reading > > > > > > > somewhere that there > > > > > > > are places in the UK where these can be purchased. These > > > > places are > > > > > > > called shops. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > While I'm in the mood, why oh why, do people complain about > > not > > > > being > > > > > > > allowed to take > > > > > > > nail-clippers. I can go a few hours without a manicure, and > > > > I'm sure > > > > > > > I'm not alone. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As for bottled water, just drink 3-4 liters before security > > > > then spend > > > > > > > the flight recycling > > > > > > > your urine. I have a gift for the obvious. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyone need any other advice, just drop me a line. Glad I > > > > could be > > > > > > of help. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > Tony > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ellen wrote: > > > > > > > > no kidding. I wasn't really planning to bring toiletries > > in my > > > > > > > > carryon anyway--what am I going to do with shampoo-- take a > > > > shower on > > > > > > > > the plane? But things like regular bottled drinking > > water, > > > > what the > > > > > > > > hell? Sure I'll taste my own bottled water before > > boarding > > > > if you > > > > > > > > insist. They keep telling us to bring our own food, now > > we > > > > won't be > > > > > > > > able to because we might have secretly hidden explosives > > in > > > > the > > > > > > > > applesauce? The fast food places in the airport advertise > > > > flight > > > > > > > > meals. They think they're saving money by not feeding us > > on > > > > the > > > > > > > > plane--all they're really doing is giving us more > > opporunity > > > > to make > > > > > > > > secret bombs out of chocolate pudding. or something like > > > > that. > > > > > > > > We're all going to hell and it's too late to turn back. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! 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