Patrick Aljord schrieb:
On Jan 7, 2008 1:08 PM, Klaus Darilion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

michel memeteau schrieb:
Hi all !

Wengo has to carry on as it was about to become one of the standards Sip
softphone on major OSes.

2008/1/6, Tanguy Krotoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>:

    On Jan 6, 2008 7:16 PM, Patrick Aljord < [EMAIL PROTECTED]
    <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
     > Well, people using Windows and MacOS X don't care about using a 100%
     > FOSS VoIP solution

    Maybe people under Linux care about communicate with their friends
    under Windows or MacOS X
    And this can be achieved easily if the same software can be used on
    different OS don't you think?


the main problem with SIP today is that we don't have a click n Run
friendly & standard solution on Windows & Mac OSX. Linux is full of
great SIP solution , So for once I would not be too ashamed if Wengo for
Linux was a bit less achieved.....

people on Linux have already Full & friendly supported solution with
several software ( Pidgin/Gajim for IM ; Ekiga for audio/video )
I recently tested IM with Pidgin and GAIM and IMO those SIP
implementations are very bad.

Pidgin and GAIM are the same thing, it just changed its name. Pidgin
doesn't support SIP for now so I don't see how you could have tested
it. (pidgin does supprt SIMPLE though).

sorry - I was confused about GAIM and Miranda.

SIMPLE is based on SIP. Thus, testing SIMPLE also means that you test at least some parts of the SIP stack (is there a SIP stack at all?) and by using it for some minutes only I discovered the following bugs:

Pidgin 2.3.0 on WindowsXpsp2:
- uses the same call-id for each REGISTER, even after a restart
- it did not reREGISTER after the expired time
- rejecting incoming INVITE is totally broken
- send 501 response on incoming ACK
- uses the wrong interface/IP address in SIP headers

it looks like as Pidgin does not use a SIP stack at all. I wonder why. By using an existing SIP stack (e.g. pjsip) to add SIMPLE to Pidgin would be much more easier and much more stable.

regards
klaus



the Main problem is how to use existing Linux SIP solutions with friends
on Windows & mac ; OW was about to become THE solution , just few bugs
still to correct ...

BTW , the wengo company still advertise to its "wengo" experts to
receive their calls on Wengophone , so it's still part of their
businesss even if their flash interface might work even better than
Wengo ( but takes 100% cpu all the time ! Flash effect ) ,

SO I think it would be the least for Wengo to keep up the hosting for
the project !  For neuf/Wengo such hosting is nothing compared to other
expenses ...... isn't it ?
If Wengo wont support OW anymore IMO it should be move to some other
place (sourceforge, goggle code, novell forge, savannah, berlios ...)


On windows and mac people can use gizmo, it works great with ekiga or
any other SIP client on linux.
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