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On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Greg Boggs <[email protected]> wrote:
> Is there a url which we can use to inform student artists about this grant?
>
> David White wrote:
>> Kitty,
>>
>> There are two main ways we've attracted GSoC students: (1) those who are
>> already Wesnoth developers, but find that they can contribute much more
>> intensely to Wesnoth if their living expenses are paid for over the
>> summer; (2) those who are new to Wesnoth and perhaps find out about it
>> only through GSoC.
>>
>> For this program, we are going to begin only through option (1). We will
>> be looking for people who are students, and artists, and contribute good
>> quality art to Wesnoth already. We hope that by us paying them some
>> money, we'll be able to get them to devote some of their summer to
>> working fully on Wesnoth.
>>
>> If the program is successful and we feel we are in a position to attract
>> new artists, we may consider option (2). However, I think that option
>> (1) will suffice for now.
>>
>> That said, I think you are a prime candidate for this, Kitty. If you are
>> interested, I think we would love to have an application from you. I
>> believe Jetryl has already contacted you about this via a forum PM.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> David
>>
>> On Wed, 2009-05-20 at 23:35 +0200, [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> that sounds like an interesting plan! Just one question:
>>> If this works like GSoC - where and how do you plan to acquire students?
>>> Will we post ads on art forums? And which ones? As far as I know GSoC
>>> works because it is already well known and promoted and thus gets the
>>> attention of interesting/talented participants. How will we get the 
>>> attention
>>> of artists not already involved in open source games?
>>>
>>> Greetings, Kitty
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>>> Von: "Noy" <[email protected]>
>>>> Gesendet: 19.05.09 23:00:39
>>>> An: dev-talk <[email protected]>
>>>> Betreff: [Wesnoth-dev] Art Scholarship Proposal
>>>>
>>>
>>>> Greetings
>>>>
>>>> Over the past few weeks a proposal has been raised for the creation of
>>>> a Wesnoth GSOC-like art scholarship. I've spoken to several developers
>>>> including Dave, Jetryl and Ivanovic on this topic, and this email is
>>>> really an compilation of those discussions.
>>>>
>>>> I believe the reason behind the proposal is fairly simple; If wesnoth
>>>> desires continued growth in the future, it is essential that we
>>>> embrace a holistic approach to our development. While enhancing GUI,
>>>> stats server or mp security are important issues, so is art
>>>> development.  I doubt anybody can deny the exceptional contribution
>>>> made by Kitty, Lord Bob and Jetryl to the game over the past year.
>>>> This proposal intends to build on that by developing our young talent
>>>> base. At the same time it is a philanthropic endevour, where we are
>>>> offering a student the opportunity to enhance their art skills over
>>>> the summer.
>>>>
>>>> Wesnoth financial situation is well suited for such a proposal. With
>>>> the completion of this year's GSOC in September we will have an
>>>> operating reserve of between $5,000 and $7,000 dollars. Based on this
>>>> and  some discussions, I believe there are two acceptable options;  a
>>>> single $2,500 scholarship or two at $1,500 each. This would leave at
>>>> minimum $2,000 for other contingencies.
>>>>
>>>> The mechanics of the scholarship would closely resemble how we manage
>>>> the GSOC process. We would retain the mentoring process the summer of
>>>> code uses, with Jetryl as the lead person. However the nature of art
>>>> as a medium in our project compared to coding requires some
>>>> adjustments to the payment and oversight scheme. GSOC projects
>>>> typically are end loaded; though there is constant interaction between
>>>> the mentor and student, the project is typically finished at the end.
>>>> As such the money is disbursed at the beginning and end of the
>>>> project.  For an art project, we would expect a number of pieces to be
>>>> completed over the project length. Therefore a progressive payment
>>>> scheme seems more appropriate, where money is allocated when the
>>>> student reaches certain milestones. This transfers some of the onus
>>>> from the student to the mentor, as the latter would need to identify
>>>> the development path of the student. I submit that a prospective
>>>> student would identify some areas where he or she would like to
>>>> improve, to which the mentor would design a program around. As an
>>>> illustrative example, if this program was run from June 1st to
>>>> September 1st, having four milestones  (one every three weeks
>>>> consisting of a piece of art or two) might seem reasonable. Upon each
>>>> assignment's completion funds would be disbursed. Again I'm not
>>>> suggesting how it should be, just to illustrate how it might be
>>>> organized.
>>>>
>>>> While this system may seem to be somewhat onerous compared to GSOC,
>>>> there are several good reasons for it. First is the fact that we are
>>>> running this for the first time and don't have an adequate
>>>> understanding of how this may turn out. By using a progressive scheme
>>>> we can ensure the money is being used effectively throughout. I would
>>>> rather this be run somewhat stringently the first time and then relax
>>>> our procedures for subsequent attempts, if we decide to repeat it in
>>>> the future. The second reason is the unique area for art. Unlike other
>>>> gsoc programs which are widely critiqued by all the developers, we
>>>> only have one individual in this area. Since Jetryl is the only art
>>>> developer involved in day to day management of wesnoth, it would be
>>>> difficult for our community to effectively assess the scholarship's
>>>> outcome. Having clear milestones enables us to maintain an adequate
>>>> level of oversight that is consistent with the GSOC program.
>>>>
>>>> Obviously comments are welcome, but I would suggest that we move
>>>> quickly on this proposal if it is approved.
>>>>
>>>> Noy.
>>>>
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