Dear friends, we know what Christine is doing for us since our memory can
remember and there is no doubt of the excellent work she is doing for our dear
westnile. If some people have personal issues with Christine or otherwise, this
is not the right forum for such intelectual out burst and for sure we need to
give credit where it is due. Leave her alone, I know we have freedom of
expression but it should never be used for the disadvantage of another person
and so there is nothing free in this world........ Christine please cheer up
and keep your candle burning.....
Eric
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From: kikonyogo kivumbi <[email protected]>
To: anguzu yumaa <[email protected]>; A Virtual Network for friends of West
Nile <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, 23 April 2012, 8:55
Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] SCIENCE CAFE --- CHRISTINE MUNDURU
Thanks Anguzu. As a journalist i would die for freedom of expression
and thought. However when such thoughts manifest into idle talk on an
innocent Christine making a contribution to VULNERABLE people's
welfare, i would be restless. It is true that some vaccines,
especially those that need refrigeration when not handled in their
right temperatures may have side effects. But rather than wrongly
critising Christine, i THINK the gentleman should buy my thought that
we need regime change ( with all options open) because Museveni has
run down the entire health infrastructure in this country. All the
regional referral hospitals were built by Obote, with cold
facilities. Christine is not the one who has run down this
infrastructure
kikonyogo
On 4/22/12, anguzu yumaa <[email protected]> wrote:
> Following the discussions that have been going on in this forum on the issue
> of vaccination, I am tempted to add my voice in support of some of the
> comments by George Afi Obitre Gama, Uncle Nyax and Kivumbi KIkonyogo.
> And owing to the fact that the submission by Akua Serwaa and a re-joinder by
> Pario Anguyo looks like an anti-immunisation or anti vaccination crusade I
> feel that an alternative view needs to be advanced, lest we get terribly
> misled.
>
> Freedom
> of thought and speech
> They certainly have their freedom to thought,
> expression and speech. I am an ardent supporter of freedom of speech and
> thought. I believe that thought should not be imprisoned in any way. I also
> believe that free thought should be freely communicated so as to become a
> fuel
> for scientific and also political, social and economic advancement of
> communities such as ours. While this should be the case, I think that we
> should
> not attempt to force our views on others by intimidation, coercion and so
> forth,
> through personal attacks on individual members.
>
> Personal
> attacks
> The personal attack on Christine was therefore
> unwarranted, to say the least. In the first place, what is paining comrades
> Akua and Pario is the issue of immunisation/ vaccination. Christine
> represents
> Science Cafe Uganda, which in my opinion is not an agency for promotion of
> immunisation/ vaccination as such. Neither does the organisation produce
> vaccines or sponsor their production. I see Science Cafe as an organisation
> formed for bridging the information gap that is necessary for pulling our
> people
> out of the traps of poverty, disease and ignorance. (Uncle Nyax could not
> have
> stated it any better). Judging by the overwhelming demand from the people on
> the ground here in Arua to have this initiative extended to their
> localities, one
> can conclude that it is achieving its objectives. This I am glad is already
> being noted by other external development partners/ donors. I would rather
> therefore advise that instead of “throwing spanners in the wheels” of this
> visibly useful initiative, we should do our best to promote it.
> Coming to the subject matter of immunisations/
> vaccinations, as a public health professional, I welcome debates and
> exchange
> of views on unclear health related issues.
> I could write a long essay on this topic, but I will
> try only to cover the basics which I believe should be able to clear the
> air.
>
> First
> what is vaccination?
> Vaccination is the administration of antigenic
> material (a vaccine) to stimulate the immune system of an individual to
> develop
> adaptive immunity to a disease (Wikipedia, April 2012). I have deliberately
> quoted from the Wikipedia, which is a free source as opposed to WHO which
> some
> one termed as “World Hells Organisation”
>
> Vaccines are composed of: weakened or altered germs,
> inactivated or killed germs, inactivated toxins or segments of germs. It
> should
> be noted that these materials that can no longer cause disease. On getting
> into
> the body, the body perceives them as evidence of enemies approaching
> therefore
> releases antibodies (soldiers) to kind of patrol the whole body and kill any
> actual enemy that may succeed to enter. The only difference here is that for
> the body, specific “soldiers” are released for specific “enemies”. Eg,
> anti-polio
> soldiers can only kill polio “enemies”.
>
> History
> of Vaccination
> Use of vaccines started as early as 100CE by the
> Chinese. Later it was reported to have been practiced in Africa and Turkey
> before spreading to Europe and the Americas (www.historyofvaccines.org,
> April 2012)
> Rigorous
> control of vaccines development
> Systems
> for developing and testing vaccines emerged after the 19th century, when
> many
> vaccines began to be used. The current system for developing, testing, and
> regulating vaccines developed during the 20th century as the groups involved
> standardized their procedures and regulations.
> Vaccine
> development is a long, complex process, often lasting 10-15 years and
> involving
> a combination of public and private organisations which provide oversight.
> The current system for
> developing, testing, and regulating vaccines developed during the 20th
> century as the groups involved standardized their procedures and
> regulations.
> Government
> Oversight
> In the United States, the Center for Biologics Evaluation
> and Research oversees vaccine safety and regulates vaccines development
> In the European Union, the
> European Medicines Agency supervises regulation of vaccines and other drugs.
> A
> committee of the World Health Organization makes recommendations for
> biological
> products used internationally. Many countries have adopted the WHO
> standards.
> Many countries have their own scientists who have the capacity to oversee
> vaccines development. All such works are thoroughly peer reviewed.
> The
> general stages of the development cycle of a vaccine are:
> * Exploratory stage
> * Pre-clinical stage
> * Clinical development
> * Regulatory review and approval
> * Manufacturing
> * Quality control
> Clinical
> development is a three-phase process. During Phase I, small groups of people
> receive the trial vaccine. In Phase II, the clinical study is expanded and
> vaccine is given to people who have characteristics (such as age and
> physical
> health) similar to those for whom the new vaccine is intended. In Phase III,
> the vaccine is given to thousands of people and tested for efficacy and
> safety.
> Many
> vaccines undergo Phase IV formal, ongoing studies after the vaccine is
> approved
> and licensed.
> In Conclusion, Vaccines are developed, tested,
> and regulated in a very similar manner to other drugs. In general, vaccines
> are even more thoroughly tested than non-vaccine drugs because the number of
> human subjects in vaccine clinical
> trials is usually greater. In addition, post-licensure monitoring of
> vaccines
> is closely examined by the Centers for Disease Control and the FDA.
> Opposition
> to vaccination.
> Although the times have changed, the emotions and
> deep-rooted beliefs—whether philosophical, political, or spiritual—that
> underlie vaccine opposition have remained relatively consistent ever since
> Edward Jenner introduced vaccination in 1796. Comrades Akua and Pariyo
> probably
> belong to this group of opponents of vaccination.
> What I would like to say to my friends is that vaccines
> have been described as one of the ten most important and cost effective
> advances
> in medicine in this century.
> Because of vaccines, some diseases like Small pox have
> been eliminated from the face of the world, polio is on the verge of being
> eliminated. In Uganda, we spent several years without outbreaks of measles.
> It
> is of recent that due to the declining immunisation coverage, we are
> beginning
> to experience measles outbreaks in the country. If I may ask, what
> alternatives to vaccines do
> our friends propose? Do vaccines really kill? I believe that some of us are
> now
> in advanced age groups in spite of having been vaccinated during our child
> hood, including some of the friends who
> are opponents of vaccination. Since, let’s say 1960, how many children in
> West
> Nile have been vaccinated? If vaccination was for killing people, how many
> people would still be alive in West Nile?
>
>
>
>
> Dr. Anguzu Yumaa Patrick
> P.O.Box 701 Arua, Uganda, East Africa.
> Telephone: +256476421367 - Home
> +256772696200 - Mobile
> e-mail: [email protected]
>
> “Yesterday is history. Tomorrow is a mystery. Today is a gift. That's why
> it's called the present. ”
> There's never a "right time" to wait for. So whenever you get the chance,
> take a risk.
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: kikonyogo kivumbi <[email protected]>
> To: George Afi Obitre-Gama <[email protected]>; A Virtual Network for
> friends of West Nile <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 12:38 PM
> Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] SCIENCE CAFE --- CHRISTINE MUNDURU
>
> I will disagree with you Akua. Christine Munduru is an exemplary
> person held in high esteem countrywide. I know well the concept behind
> the Science Cafe and i fully support it. It is a harmless initiative
> to make a contribution to the welfare of people's health. I will
> encourage you Akua to separate personal vendetta against Christine
> from an otherwise good forum for constructive ideas. Science cafe is
> helping people in Kampala and Entebbe. What makes you Akua think it is
> not good for westnilers. Kindly revisit your ideas.
> Kikonyogo
>
> On 4/21/12, George Afi Obitre-Gama <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Ladies and Gentlemen,
>>
>> With due respect, I do not think such kind of submissions against
>> Christine
>> who has been trying her best to do the best for the region's girl child;s
>> health just by giving the latest information should be entertained.
>> Replies
>> and/or contributions should be respectful to one another and should be to
>> the point, not abusive and deragatory - not just a cut and paste scenario
>> like the previous email submission.
>>
>> I highly and seriously suggest that if a member of the forum has such kind
>> of negative attitude to what is simply a suggestion for information's
>> sake which can be "a take it Or leave it", then such a member should be
>> de-registered with immediate effect.
>>
>> Kigs, kindly investigate and do the needful.
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: akua tree <[email protected]>
>> To: [email protected]
>> Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 4:33 PM
>> Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] SCIENCE CAFE --- CHRISTINE MUNDURU
>>
>>
>> TO CHRISTINE MUNDURU !
>>
>>
>> Science(from Latin scientia, meaning "knowledge")
>>
>> SELLING - NO FUTURE - IS IT WISE ?
>>
>> WHAT DO WE DO WITH A SCIENCE CAFE THAT HAVE PEOPLE LIKE YOU
>> EMPTYING OUR REGION FOR ITS PEOPLE .
>> ‘ WHO ’ ARE YOU REALLY ' HELPING '
>> AND TO PREVENTING WHAT ?
>>
>> VACCINATE OUR YOUNG GIRLS , NO FUTURE !!
>>
>> AKUA SERWAAH
>>
>>
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>>> Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2012 05:56:03 -0700 (PDT)
>>> From: Stephen Aceku <[email protected]>
>>> To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile <[email protected]>
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>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Christine Munduru <[email protected]>
>>> To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 3:53 AM
>>> Subject: [WestNileNet] Science Cafe Uganda in world News
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear all, this is just to let you know that Science Cafe Uganda is slowly
>>> finding its way into the world.
>>> Science cafe will represent Uganda among five countries selected to pilot
>>> cervical cancer and HPV vaccine awareness at grassroots communities to
>>> generate information for global advocacy strategy for vaccine development
>>> and promotion by WHO.
>>> Apparently Uganda has the highest incidence rate and mortality rate among
>>> the 17 countries of Eastern Africa. This disease is preventable but why
>>> is
>>> Uganda having this high incidence rate is the million dollar question
>>> ?
>>> Read the press release in advance to the world immunization week with
>>> information from the five selected countries and their projects from the?
>>> Science cafe website.
>>> You can also now view the cafe photos from the various discussions being
>>> held on the website.
>>> ?
>>> Thanks
>>> ?
>>> Christine
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