All roads lead to Rome. Even the long ones. Whatever the populace agrees on and is willing to follow through, I am game.
Sent from my iPhone On 2013-03-03, at 10:30 AM, JohnAJackson <[email protected]> wrote: > Lets agree on simple things first, & be solution focused > move forward with Conference/Workshop/Seminar for June either 14/15 or move > to 21/22. > 3 months is enough time to plan for this > form a commitee to lead this effort > who is our audience? Secondary HMs or Primary HMs and who else? 100-300 > should be enough to start addressing this problem > where shall we hold this? what school has a big hall? NTC, Mvara, Ombaci, > Lodonga? > what location will be good for most people? > what is the theme? > can we team up with local education officers to disseminate information? > who will be moderator? Can Dr. Obaa facilitate this? or someone else? > do we have conference equipment available? may we can borrow from Catholic > Center, I assume they have something. > Conducting comprehensive Research > let's find a two student/s who are interested in research for Masters in > Education and see a way to fund them to do a research. This would be a good > project. > > On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 7:15 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: >> Send WestNileNet mailing list submissions to >> [email protected] >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> [email protected] >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> [email protected] >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of WestNileNet digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: Research on poor academic performance in West Nile >> (Caleb Alaka) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2013 16:15:02 +0300 >> From: Caleb Alaka <[email protected]> >> To: banduga ismail <[email protected]>, A Virtual Network for >> friends of West Nile <[email protected]> >> Cc: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Research on poor academic performance in >> West Nile >> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> Ismail, you have made the point I have been grappling with, I also thought >> that while we are trying to find out the problem with our schools, we should >> also find out why some schools are continuously performing well, if we agree >> on carrying out the research, we may then need to have two teams, we can for >> purposes of cutting of costs commission a team based in West Nile to carry >> out the research down there and another based in Kampala. Any way lets >> generate much more ideas >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Mar 3, 2013, at 10:49 AM, banduga ismail <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > Members, >> > >> > I agree with Charles that doing a research would delay action. I agree >> > with Obaa that taking action based on a research done some years ago and >> > only in one area (Yumbe) may not only be counter productive but also >> > misleading. According to Charles, a similar research was done in Koboko >> > and the findings were the same. Someone should tell me whether or not >> > action has been taken since those researches were done. If yes, then those >> > findings may not be valid now. If no, then we have a point to start from. >> > Obaa presents a professional view point of how a problem is identified, >> > turned into a re-searchable topic with a view of addressing the problem. >> > Charles presents a pragmatic approach, of taking action on what we already >> > know. >> > >> > I want to believe that all of us appreciate this crystal clear fact that >> > education performance in our schools has gone down and is getting worse. I >> > also want to believe that we know why this is the case in our schools >> > today, a picture that has not been so in the past. More research as >> > Charles contents will mean our actions come later, maybe after we have >> > seen two or more sets of poor results. >> > >> > As we go in for more research or action, I would think we need to also >> > research in areas and schools where performances are constantly good and >> > improving every year. I think that is where we need to learn so that the >> > findings in such a research would inform our interventions in our schools. >> > Doing research in our schools among other things will authenticate our >> > poor performance, a fact we already know. Whereas doing a research in >> > schools with good performance will enable us understand how they do it for >> > that we may emulate them. Not so? >> > >> > Ismail >> > ------------------------------- >> > >> > From: Caleb Alaka <[email protected]> >> > To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile <[email protected]> >> > Sent: Sunday, 3 March 2013, 9:46 >> > Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Research on poor academic performance in West >> > Nile >> > >> > I am touched with all the views being expressed, I have also seen the >> > magnitude of the work on our shoulders as leaders of West Nile Foundation, >> > I think this name was appropriately given to our organization looking at >> > the tasks ahead, I thank all those who have volunteered here and there to >> > be part of the anticipated committee in charge of either the fact finding >> > committee or the organizing Committee of the intended conference, John >> > Jackson has always been instrumental in summarizing action points, as we >> > continue generating more ideas, I pray John is going to work hand in hand >> > with Drani Francis Xaviour our SG to summarize our agreed points, thanks >> > for all those contributing, lets air out our different views, let us not >> > forget that we too are part of the West Nile Community. Some of you are >> > experts in conducting online research, when time comes for the committee >> > to carry out research, it will definitely require researches of the Yumbe, >> > Koboko reports and our own input. Tha >> nk >> > s. We your leaders are already having series of meetings and you will soon >> > be informed of the outcomes. >> > >> > Sent from my iPhone >> > >> > On Mar 3, 2013, at 3:14 AM, Charles Male <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > > Dr Obaa, >> > > >> > > I agree with Mr. Jackson Avudria that the results of the study in >> > > Yumbe district can be extrapolated across the rest of west nile >> > > districts. Mr. Stephen Todoko (former Chair of Anticorruption Koboko) >> > > and the Koboko Joint University Students Association (KOJUSA) >> > > undertook similar but separate studies as a result of concerns arising >> > > from poor performance in PLE, O and A levels. The results mirror those >> > > seen in Yumbe District exactly. Just substitute Koboko for Yumber and >> > > everything remains the same. Plus, in my opinion if you really, really >> > > want to find how bad our education system has gone...Yumber and Koboko >> > > districts are the best case studies for I think they are at the bottom >> > > if you ranked perfromance in west nile districts/counties. Sure, you >> > > will hear that St Charles Lwanga performed well in some years but do >> > > not forget that the majority Lwanga students come from outside of the >> > > district! It may be different now but that was always the situation. >> > > >> > > So to me undertaking further research will delay action and the good >> > > will that is arising now! Action is what is needed now. >> > > >> > > Part of the preparation for this conference should be concurrent one >> > > on one (if possible) meetings between WN Foundation leadership with >> > > all WN MPs to ascertain their take on the deplorable performance and >> > > what action(s) they intend to take to addres the situation. >> > > >> > > There should be targeted meetings either now or after the proposed >> > > conference with different groups -- for example, religious leaders, >> > > CSOs, college and university student associations etc. >> > > >> > > All our leaders and especially the religious and community leaders >> > > should use their previledged positions to talk to their congregations >> > > and stakeholders about the importance of education. >> > > >> > > Even as a young and interrupted student who was not able to finish his >> > > A level due to the Ugandan war, I personally took the opportunity to >> > > talk to many many of our younger students in the refugee camps in >> > > South Sudan when I worked as a research assistant for Dr. Harrell-Bond >> > > who conducted research among Ugandan (read Madi, Lugbara and Kakwa) >> > > refugees in South Sudan in the early 1980s. Like the many >> > > contemporaries I have on Koboko and West Nile nets, education was >> > > something that was imparted upon my mind at an early age from home. >> > > Children will never succeed if parents think they will outsource their >> > > responsibilities to other people. >> > > >> > > Over the past two or three years KOJUSA played an important role >> > > during their long vacation in speaking to elementary and secondary >> > > students in Koboko district. In addition, KOJUSA and other Koboko >> > > youth were supported by the community both in and outside Koboko to >> > > organize annual youth conferences where the importance of education >> > > was discussed. >> > > >> > > You will all recall that the children we are lamenting about are the >> > > children of our contemporaries -- most of whom were children who spent >> > > their chilhood as refugees. It is not surprising therefore that we are >> > > reaping the terrible consequences of the civil war(s) in west >> > > nile/Uganda! >> > > >> > > We have many a time asked our politicians to work together for the >> > > good of west nile but unfortunately, you never hear about a West NILE >> > > CAUCUS in parliament when you constantly hear about Acholi, Lango, >> > > Buganda, Teso etc etc who are pushing for development for their >> > > regions. So we should not be surprised when you hear bad performance >> > > year in year out! >> > > >> > > I recall Hon Moses Ali spearheading a west nile development conference >> > > in the early 1990s. I thought that conference would take root but >> > > unfortunately, it never did! >> > > >> > > WNF leadership should consult with him as well for the way forward. >> > > >> > > Education, like all other forms of learning starts right from home. >> > > The days when parents outsourced their children's learning ended in >> > > 1978/9 before we left our respective villages as refugees to Congo and >> > > South Sudan. In the good old days, parents could rely on the >> > > educators, church, clan and community leaders, uncles etc to >> > > discipline errant children. As I stated in these two fora before, >> > > parents, uncles, teachers, religious and other community leaders lost >> > > their influence on children when they were in exile. Those among us >> > > who succeeded did so mostly on their own determination. >> > > >> > > I could go on and on and on but I will stop my rumbling here for the >> > > time being hoping that it will also ignite a flicker in others... >> > > >> > > Charles >> > > >> > > >> > > On 3/2/13, Bernard B. Obaa <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> My people, >> > >> >> > >> Thank you Jackson for volunteering to retrieve a research report on poor >> > >> performance of schools in Yumbe district. It would be great to read that >> > >> report. Whatever the results of that study, I think a study conducted >> > >> four >> > >> years ago should not stop us from doing a related study. In fact, that >> > >> study can provide some comparative perspective to a new study. >> > >> >> > >> There is another problem from relying on that study for our purpose. >> > >> Yumbe is not representative of conditions in West Nile. It is not right >> > >> to >> > >> generalize findings from a study done only in Yumbe for the whole >> > >> region. >> > >> To make such a generalization, one may have to do the study in more than >> > >> one district in the region with a good justification for the selected >> > >> districts. >> > >> >> > >> If we choose to commission a study, which I feel we should, I would >> > >> like to >> > >> be part of the research team. The results from the study could form the >> > >> basis for presentations/discussions/resolutions in the proposed >> > >> education >> > >> conference. >> > >> >> > >> Kind regards, >> > >> >> > >> Bernard Obaa, PhD >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 8:48 PM, JohnAJackson <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> >> > >>> For the benefit of people who are new to this forum, >> > >>> >> > >>> Yes, Research was done By Dr. Epiphany Picho (Fr.), who is currently >> > >>> coordinating Muni University set up. Dr. Picho did a study on Poor >> > >>> performance in Schools in Yumbe District. This was part of core Team of >> > >>> Task Force for Education. >> > >>> >> > >>> The results of the study was distributed on this forum 4 years ago. The >> > >>> issues analyzed can be extrapolated to all districts. >> > >>> >> > >>> As a reminder, I can fish this document out and re-post for anyone who >> > >>> did >> > >>> see the research results >> > >>> >> > >>> On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 9:57 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >>> >> > >>>> Send WestNileNet mailing list submissions to >> > >>>> [email protected] >> > >>>> >> > >>>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> > >>>> http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet >> > >>>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> > >>>> [email protected] >> > >>>> >> > >>>> You can reach the person managing the list at >> > >>>> [email protected] >> > >>>> >> > >>>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> > >>>> than "Re: Contents of WestNileNet digest..." >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> Today's Topics: >> > >>>> >> > >>>> 1. Re: A-Level Results WN Results - Pg 8 Monitor (Sam Aderubo) >> > >>>> 2. Re: Thank you (Robert Ejiku) >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > >>>> >> > >>>> Message: 1 >> > >>>> Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2013 06:36:55 -0800 (PST) >> > >>>> From: Sam Aderubo <[email protected]> >> > >>>> To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile <[email protected]>, >> > >>>> George Afi Obitre-Gama <[email protected]> >> > >>>> Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] A-Level Results WN Results - Pg 8 Monitor >> > >>>> Message-ID: >> > >>>> <[email protected]> >> > >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> > >>>> >> > >>>> Let us re-arrange a few things in the mail from our Broder; >> > >>>> ? >> > >>>> Research apparently is a process to answer a question such as "..SO >> > >>>> WHERE >> > >>>> IS THE PROBLEM?".?It sometimes starts as an ABSTRACT.You literally >> > >>>> dev >> > _______________________________________________ >> > WestNileNet mailing list >> > [email protected] >> > http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet >> > >> > WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ >> > >> > The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including >> > attachments if any). 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