Glad that it has toned down. Sent from my iPhone
> On Mar 20, 2016, at 2:38 PM, Charles Male <[email protected]> wrote: > > While there is no doubt that many, including myself, have learnt a lot from > bro Hussein's writings, we have at certain point in time over the last few > years encouraged him to channel some of the enormous energy he has towards > other more tangible projects in west nile. Given his great research skills > and writing abilities, for example, helping start community newspapers in > would greatly help in providing young people -- graduates - internship > opportunities where they would learn not only how to write but other skills > such as project mgmt, etc etc.. > > Honouring Amin by Museveni? Not in a million years!!! am more inclined to > believe that even when the Good Lord calls Museveni back to heaven, he (LORD) > will have to erect a permanent electrical fence between Amin and Museveni as > Museveni will more likely be looking for opportunities for a good fight with > Amin. Even though GOD will remind Museveni that he owes his presidency to > Amin's taking power from Obote, Museveni will have none of that, instead, > will continue with the intense hatred he developed for Amin here on earth! > > As you may all know, the people who should have been held responsible and > actually pay for the construction of Arua airport are the Arabs. It was them > who brought friction between the Israelis and Amin which led to kicking out > of the Israelis. The arabs should have been made to complete or pay for the > completion of the projects the israelis had started and not completed! > Besides the Amin family, we do have people in westnile and made who could use > their connections with the arab world who could remind them about projects > that the israelis did not complete because they promised Amin heaven if > uganda cut off relations with israel and joined the arab world instead. > > Having said all the above, the responsibility to construct and elevate Arua > airport to international levels lies squarely on the uganda govt. it is > common sense that bringing Arua airport to an international level will boost > the economy of the region manyfold. It is a question of ensuring the region > does not have direct airlines with the outside world...something i attribute > to backwardness, tribalism etc as the senior decision makers have no interest > in developing our region other than their won regions. The Kenya and Canadian > govts understand the importance of linking their countries internationally > for economic reasons that is why they have built international airports in > more than one city. Their airports were NOT built to honour their past > leaders BUT were renamed to recognize those leaders. > > For us ugandans, we have to wait for the british to come and tell us to > allow international flights to fly into Arua or other airports besides > Entebbe. I remember years ago when I had a conversation with a senior > NRA/UPDF officer and the issue of Arua airport not being upgraded to an > international airport crept into the conversation. When I asked him why the > govt wasn't upgrading the airport, his answer was that they did not want the > airport to be used to ship in guns from abroad for west nile rebel groups!!!!! > > my 2 cents... > > > > > > > > > >> On Sun, Mar 20, 2016 at 11:34 AM, JohnAJackson <[email protected]> wrote: >> Thank you Vasco for your contribution. While I agree with your definition of >> a leader/leadership, my statement picked one of the things leaders do. My >> message was to direct our brother Husein to look at creative initiatives in >> order to remember his dad. >> While I agree with political patronage in Uganda as you have stated, >> effective lobbying skills seems to get regional leaders a piece of the pie >> from the top boss. This is a common pattern almost in most countries where a >> government does not have a full grip on infrastructure development and >> prioritization. >> Our brother Husein has been lecturing people on this forum for a long time. >> I was simply throwing up some creative ideas to think about. If you have >> passed through Kenya, you probably flew through Jomo Kenyata International >> airport. You probably have heard of McDonald Cartier International Airport, >> Pearson International airport, the list goes on and on. These are structures >> built by the government in honor of their leaders. I am aware that in >> Uganda's situation this is not the case. I am ware that the top boss tends >> to support or favor people who support him 100%. >> Building Arua airport would be a good investment for the government and the >> people in this region. May be this should be a development agenda which our >> people should pursue seriously. The economic benefits cannot be overstated. >> This is the second busies airport in Uganda next to Entebbe. Assuming there >> was a a natural disaster at Entebbe like a flood or something odd for 2-3 >> months. Where would big planes land in Uganda today? >> For instance converting Idi Amin's home at Tanganyika village in Arua into a >> Museum or building a museum in his honor in Arua would be a good project >> where a generation of people who did not know about Amin would be able to >> know about his achievements. Alternatively, publishing several books about >> Amin's biography would be a great asset that would remain for generations. >> These are permanent historical assets that would remain for ever. >> Honestly, I do not see the value of passing oral literature as our brother >> Husein has been lecturing for the last two years. How many people are >> excited or interested in this kind of stuff? This is the same problem we all >> face where our father and grand father passed the history of West Nile by >> oral literature. As that world war generation died off, this history is >> fading off. in another 50 years to come, we may not find people who can tell >> the history of West Nile, the Belgian wars with the British. >> A few years ago, People from the West Nile region wanted a university. We >> all collaborated effectively and shared fantastic ideas on how to get >> started. Muni NTC was converted to a university which is operational today. >> Our struggle now is to ensure children/people from West Nile region take >> advantage of the University they had been crying for. It has created >> employment opportunities for a few people. >> My message is to encourage all of us to focus on productive project >> initiative that bring value to this region. >> Thank you >> JJ >> >>> On Sat, Mar 19, 2016 at 11:23 PM, Vasco Oguzua <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Leadership is not only about problem solving. Leadership is much more than >>> problem solving. Leadership requires a lot of critical thinking to >>> inquire, scrutinize, digest, analyze, and formulate and identify possible >>> solutions to a problem. When people jump to prescribe what they think are >>> solutions to problems without quite evaluating and understanding the >>> problem and the environment within which the problem manifests itself, that >>> in itself becomes a huge more complex black box problem. In basic systems >>> analysis, problems identified as Black Box are more complex to solve >>> because the box has quite a mix of unknown factors in the system's >>> environment driving the system in unknown measurements and scale. >>> >>> While John is every time suggesting solutions to problems in West Nile >>> which in most cases he associates to lack of leadership, I always kind of >>> wonder if he carefully and thoroughly examines the the problems from the >>> various aspects of development (structural, economic, political, social, >>> mental, etc) before suggesting some of these solutions. >>> Without careful evaluation and analysis of some of these aspects of the >>> problems, >>> I will beg to say that though some of the solutions he suggest may sound >>> good on paper they are shallow and hollow in addressing the problems. >>> The Building of the Arua Airport should not be framed as something Amin's >>> son, Hussein Lumumba should go and beg Museveni for. I wonder what news >>> John reads or listens to for him to suggest that Hussein should go to >>> Museveni to ask him for money to build Arua Airport in memory and honor of >>> his late dad. >>> Up to this day if John does not know that among all the past heads of state >>> or former presidents of Uganda, the most denigrated, abused, insulted and >>> if I may add hated person even at death by Museveni is Amin. How dare John >>> suggest that Hussein should go and beg Museveni for money to build Arua >>> Airport to honour his late dad!!! >>> If up to this day, the Presidential emoluments past presidents and their >>> families are entitled to, which I think is written in the Constitution of >>> Uganda has likely not been >>> paid to the Amin family, what on earth is this handshake John is talking >>> about. >>> Sometime back in one of the national newspapers, I read Hussein Lumumba >>> expressing his disgust with the government over the failure of the >>> government to pay what is due to the family. Why should the government not >>> pay the emoluments to the Amin family when he was a head is state and was a >>> civil servant of the government and entitled to those emoluments as >>> prescribed in the laws of Uganda. >>> >>> If John upto this time has not quite understood the politics of patronage, >>> nepotism, corruption, military dictatorship in today's Uganda and its >>> physical , social, mental, economic and political effects, then it would >>> be advisable for him to go and research and analyze some of these basic >>> issues before he begins to assert the lack of leadership in West Nile, and >>> thus lack of development in the region. >>> >>> The development of Arua Airport should not in anyway be a favour to the >>> people of West Nile where Hussein should go and beg Museveni so as to honor >>> the late Amin. Amin may have made his mistakes but who among Uganda' s >>> leaders has not. history will judge all the Ugandan leaders. But the >>> suggestion of asking Hussein to go and beg Museveni for money for the >>> airport to honor Amin was a regrettable statement. Why not ask the MPs who >>> are kneeling and sucking to Museveni as if he owns Uganda for >>> municipalities, districts, and city status in the name of bringing services >>> nearer to the people! What I do not understand is how John's assertion of >>> lack of leadership in West Nile has to do with Hussein going to ask >>> Museveni for money to build Arua Airport in honor of his late dad. >>> I am not sure if John knows or understands under what jurisdiction the >>> Airport falls and the development of the Airport should never be a favour >>> to West Nile, but a government development project to improve >>> infrastructure and services that improve the economic and social welfare of >>> the country not only the people of West Nile. If the Airport was in control >>> of the district government and district government leaders failed to >>> develop it, I think the blame of lack leadership in the region would be a >>> fair statement. >>> Even in this kind scenario, other political, economic factors would still >>> need to be considered before apportioning any blame on the leaders. >>> >>> I am sure John is aware of the problems Retired Bishop of Arua Diocese ,Fr. >>> Drandua, endured some years back about the plans to building Nyagak Dam >>> before it was given to the current Museveni croonies ! I wonder if John is >>> aware of why the Arua- Rhinocamp, road via Terego and the road from Arua >>> to Lodonga still through Terego is not built. Now that Kassiano Wadri is no >>> longer the MP of Terego, I am sure the building of the road must be in high >>> gear. >>> The point I am trying to make here is that the politics of patronage and >>> corruption and mediocre government officials who have no development goals >>> but rather corruption has destroyed the fabric of Uganda and West Nile our >>> region inclusive. >>> The partition of the region in the name of service delivery has never >>> delivered any services other than unnecessarily huge administrative >>> expenditure with the huge number of MPs whose bottom line in the money. >>> Look for example at the politics a of patronage in Koboko county with a >>> population of probably less than 300,000 people. Why would such a >>> population need 4 MPs to represent such a small population that could be >>> represented by one MP. With all this Patronage how is Koboko better than >>> other areas in West Nile with fewer MPs >>> >>> The lack of serious development in West Nile is not lack of leadership, but >>> something I associate with political patronage and lack free environment >>> for people to determine their destiny. If the Museveni government is >>> removed and political freedom is established where people make honest >>> decisions for their destiny, it will not take long for West Nile region to >>> develop. >>> >>> My personal opinion >>> Vasco >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>>> On Mar 19, 2016, at 6:58 AM, JohnAJackson <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> LEADERSHIP & PROBLEM SOLVING >>>> Leadership is all about problem solving. Good leaders rally people around >>>> solving a common problem >>>> Back in 1970's, Arua airport was being upgraded to International standards >>>> at a time when Idi Amin was in power. This project was abandoned at the >>>> climax of Palestinian Israel conflict. All it left was valleys by soil >>>> erosion and Israelis left off with our beautiful top soil leaving behind >>>> barren land. >>>> This would be a perfect project where Husein could go to M7 and ask for >>>> money to rebuild this airport in honor of his dad. Hopefully, M7 would >>>> give Husein money as a hand sake and good gesture. >>>> Rebuilding this airport as the second largest and busiest airport in >>>> Uganda could generate perhaps 100 to 200 jobs or more. The macroeconomic >>>> impact of this project could spin off other jobs for instance warehousing, >>>> restaurants, hotels, etc. >>>> Rebuilding Arua airport could open both passenger and cargo traffic to DR >>>> Congo and South Sudan. Instead of politicking this issue, our leaders >>>> should look at business opportunities we are not exploiting or taking >>>> seriously. We need to look at opportunity cost. >>>> A decade ago, another MP who became a minister ran on this platform and >>>> promised that he would rebuild this airport. I do not want to give names. >>>> Many of you on this forum will remember the beating of those empty drums >>>> a decade ago. >>>> Ladies and gentleman, let us face reality of problems facing this region. >>>> Some of the problems facing us require simple dialogue with stakeholders. >>>> Let's try to look at simple problems within our reach. Let us start >>>> talking about simple issues we can solve. Big issues that require >>>> government intervention let's involve our political leaders from this >>>> region to lobby the government to correct some of the problems. This is >>>> the very reason why we elected representatives. >>>> Above all, let us have intellectual and respectful discussion over some of >>>> this problems. Shying away, quitting the forum is not a gateway to problem >>>> resolution. Let us figure some way to take matters we discuss in this >>>> forum to the community. >>>> There are hundreds of highly qualified people on this forum from various >>>> professions. Don't be a silent listener. Contribute brilliant ideas on how >>>> we can address some of the challenges facing us as a community. >>>> Thank you >>>> JJ >>>> >>>>> On Sat, Mar 19, 2016 at 4:08 AM, Mail Service Team >>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> Dear John, >>>>> Bravo, you have got it RIGHT. >>>>> Let our bro Hussein join Authors Forum in writing books and making >>>>> documentaries of our Late President Amin's Life series in Kampala for >>>>> making money to support westnile problem sloution and Amins family form a >>>>> credible AMIN FOUNDATION for which we can subscribe to as members.CAN >>>>> this forum help us organise THINK TANK Innovations of both physical >>>>> meetings and media networking. >>>>> For my sister Kamure, opting out is never a solution,face the frying >>>>> pans.Don't go away for we need you. >>>>> Nice week end. >>>>> Cliff >>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 10:22 PM, JohnAJackson <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> Dear brothers and sisters, >>>>>> While Idi Amin did great things at his time, I think time has come where >>>>>> we need to encourage junior Amin to write volumes and volumes of books >>>>>> on his dad's past life. This is best way to retain knowledge so that >>>>>> younger generations can read it later. Bombarding this forum with Idi >>>>>> Amin stuff has become unpalatable, boring and makes no more sense. >>>>>> Perhaps majority of us communicating in this forum were kids during >>>>>> Amin's regime and never saw the benefit of his presidency in West Nile >>>>>> region. Correct me if I am wrong. >>>>>> We have serious social and economic development challenges facing our >>>>>> region we need to come together as a team and address some of the >>>>>> problems. Doing nothing only continues to hurt a generation of youth >>>>>> some of whom are our nephews, nieces, cousins, sisters, brothers or even >>>>>> our own children. >>>>>> For instance look at youth unemployment in this region. There is nearly >>>>>> 80-90 % school drop out rate at all levels. Where do some of these youth >>>>>> end up? Just roaming in towns or villages doing nothing but drinking >>>>>> alcohol, smoking marijuana, Mirraa, etc. >>>>>> Do we really need government intervention to stop or reduce some of >>>>>> these obvious problems in our community? Some of the issues need >>>>>> engaging our communities in finding productive solutions right from the >>>>>> grassroots level. Educating people and empowering them through mass >>>>>> media could go a long way in solving some these problems or saving our >>>>>> community from self destruction. >>>>>> It may sound like a joking matter to say "why do I have to care about >>>>>> people who do not care about themselves"? In any place where there are >>>>>> thousands of idle people, crime rates go up. Issues like starvation will >>>>>> continue to haunt this region as older hard working generation die off. >>>>>> Mental health issues is on rise. Should we wait for the government to >>>>>> come and rescue us? >>>>>> I think it time we all come together and harness our human potential >>>>>> from these forum or region and take the wild bull in our own hands >>>>>> before it gets out of control. >>>>>> Are we going to raise a generation of youth whose job is only SECURITY >>>>>> GUARDS in Kampala & CASAVU in the sugar estates? Brothers and sisters, >>>>>> lets think twice! >>>>>> JJ >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 6:24 AM, Mail Service Team >>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> Dear Westnilers, >>>>>>> Greetings to you all. >>>>>>> I do hope this social network forum is meant for sharing tangible >>>>>>> issues of paramount interest of our region than merely >>>>>>> politicking propaganda with NO substantive benefits. >>>>>>> Majority of our regional issues require mutual solutions at both >>>>>>> personal and community level with minimal political interventions. >>>>>>> Does our young youth spending 90% of their time smoking the Sudanese >>>>>>> kind of intoxicated Smoke in towns and Chewing mairungi and people >>>>>>> relying on mairungi farming, for subsistence, poor education >>>>>>> performance in both primary and secondary need political solution? >>>>>>> What have we done at both individual and forum level than always >>>>>>> lamentations on other peoples" affairs. >>>>>>> Thank you Admin. >>>>>>> Cliff >>>>>>> Tel:+256782308172 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 11:57 AM, Beatrice A >>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> Dear Admin, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I concur with Jimmy, kindly unsubscribe me from this mailing list. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Beatrice Kamure >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> From: WestNileNet [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of >>>>>>>> Jimmy Awuzu Angubo >>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 8:11 PM >>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>> Subject: [WestNileNet] Unsubscribe >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Admin, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Could you kindly unsubscribe me from this mailing list, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thank you, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Jimmy Awuzu Angubo >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> WestNileNet mailing list >>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>> http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them >>>>>>>> (including attachments if any). 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