Charles, Your suggestion of starting a local newspaper is what I think would benefit the youth in our region who would be interested in the area of journalism. I quite enjoy reading Hussein's posts or writings and the level of research he puts in the information he provides are immense. I do not know him much other than from reading his articles, at times I think he is in some kind of investigative journalism. I have quite learnt a lot from his writings, and his opinion posts have a good in depth analysis. From John's comments about Hussein's write I have the feeling that John does not understand the context of what he writes.
Thanks, Vasco Sent from my iPad > On Mar 20, 2016, at 11:49 AM, Charles Male <[email protected]> wrote: > > Sorry...had a little more to add... > > Does it make sense that our brothers and sisters have to fly from Juba in > South Sudan to Kampala and travel by road to (or take another flight from > entebbe) to west nile? > > Assuming that the govt does not plan to upgrade the area airport over the > next 5, 10, 15 years, can our numerous district govts and NRM ministers make > an economic case for the upgrading of Arua airport to an international > airport? > > > > Perhaps this is an issue westnile net can take up and follow (if i > >> On Sun, Mar 20, 2016 at 2:38 PM, Charles Male <[email protected]> wrote: >> While there is no doubt that many, including myself, have learnt a lot from >> bro Hussein's writings, we have at certain point in time over the last few >> years encouraged him to channel some of the enormous energy he has towards >> other more tangible projects in west nile. Given his great research skills >> and writing abilities, for example, helping start community newspapers in >> would greatly help in providing young people -- graduates - internship >> opportunities where they would learn not only how to write but other skills >> such as project mgmt, etc etc.. >> >> Honouring Amin by Museveni? Not in a million years!!! am more inclined to >> believe that even when the Good Lord calls Museveni back to heaven, he >> (LORD) will have to erect a permanent electrical fence between Amin and >> Museveni as Museveni will more likely be looking for opportunities for a >> good fight with Amin. Even though GOD will remind Museveni that he owes >> his presidency to Amin's taking power from Obote, Museveni will have none of >> that, instead, will continue with the intense hatred he developed for Amin >> here on earth! >> >> As you may all know, the people who should have been held responsible and >> actually pay for the construction of Arua airport are the Arabs. It was them >> who brought friction between the Israelis and Amin which led to kicking out >> of the Israelis. The arabs should have been made to complete or pay for the >> completion of the projects the israelis had started and not completed! >> Besides the Amin family, we do have people in westnile and made who could >> use their connections with the arab world who could remind them about >> projects that the israelis did not complete because they promised Amin >> heaven if uganda cut off relations with israel and joined the arab world >> instead. >> >> Having said all the above, the responsibility to construct and elevate Arua >> airport to international levels lies squarely on the uganda govt. it is >> common sense that bringing Arua airport to an international level will boost >> the economy of the region manyfold. It is a question of ensuring the region >> does not have direct airlines with the outside world...something i attribute >> to backwardness, tribalism etc as the senior decision makers have no >> interest in developing our region other than their won regions. The Kenya >> and Canadian govts understand the importance of linking their countries >> internationally for economic reasons that is why they have built >> international airports in more than one city. Their airports were NOT built >> to honour their past leaders BUT were renamed to recognize those leaders. >> >> For us ugandans, we have to wait for the british to come and tell us to >> allow international flights to fly into Arua or other airports besides >> Entebbe. I remember years ago when I had a conversation with a senior >> NRA/UPDF officer and the issue of Arua airport not being upgraded to an >> international airport crept into the conversation. When I asked him why the >> govt wasn't upgrading the airport, his answer was that they did not want the >> airport to be used to ship in guns from abroad for west nile rebel >> groups!!!!! >> >> my 2 cents... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> On Sun, Mar 20, 2016 at 11:34 AM, JohnAJackson <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Thank you Vasco for your contribution. While I agree with your definition >>> of a leader/leadership, my statement picked one of the things leaders do. >>> My message was to direct our brother Husein to look at creative initiatives >>> in order to remember his dad. >>> While I agree with political patronage in Uganda as you have stated, >>> effective lobbying skills seems to get regional leaders a piece of the pie >>> from the top boss. This is a common pattern almost in most countries where >>> a government does not have a full grip on infrastructure development and >>> prioritization. >>> Our brother Husein has been lecturing people on this forum for a long time. >>> I was simply throwing up some creative ideas to think about. If you have >>> passed through Kenya, you probably flew through Jomo Kenyata International >>> airport. You probably have heard of McDonald Cartier International Airport, >>> Pearson International airport, the list goes on and on. These are >>> structures built by the government in honor of their leaders. I am aware >>> that in Uganda's situation this is not the case. I am ware that the top >>> boss tends to support or favor people who support him 100%. >>> Building Arua airport would be a good investment for the government and the >>> people in this region. May be this should be a development agenda which our >>> people should pursue seriously. The economic benefits cannot be overstated. >>> This is the second busies airport in Uganda next to Entebbe. Assuming there >>> was a a natural disaster at Entebbe like a flood or something odd for 2-3 >>> months. Where would big planes land in Uganda today? >>> For instance converting Idi Amin's home at Tanganyika village in Arua into >>> a Museum or building a museum in his honor in Arua would be a good project >>> where a generation of people who did not know about Amin would be able to >>> know about his achievements. Alternatively, publishing several books about >>> Amin's biography would be a great asset that would remain for generations. >>> These are permanent historical assets that would remain for ever. >>> Honestly, I do not see the value of passing oral literature as our brother >>> Husein has been lecturing for the last two years. How many people are >>> excited or interested in this kind of stuff? This is the same problem we >>> all face where our father and grand father passed the history of West Nile >>> by oral literature. As that world war generation died off, this history is >>> fading off. in another 50 years to come, we may not find people who can >>> tell the history of West Nile, the Belgian wars with the British. >>> A few years ago, People from the West Nile region wanted a university. We >>> all collaborated effectively and shared fantastic ideas on how to get >>> started. Muni NTC was converted to a university which is operational today. >>> Our struggle now is to ensure children/people from West Nile region take >>> advantage of the University they had been crying for. It has created >>> employment opportunities for a few people. >>> My message is to encourage all of us to focus on productive project >>> initiative that bring value to this region. >>> Thank you >>> JJ >>> >>>> On Sat, Mar 19, 2016 at 11:23 PM, Vasco Oguzua <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Leadership is not only about problem solving. Leadership is much more than >>>> problem solving. Leadership requires a lot of critical thinking to >>>> inquire, scrutinize, digest, analyze, and formulate and identify possible >>>> solutions to a problem. When people jump to prescribe what they think are >>>> solutions to problems without quite evaluating and understanding the >>>> problem and the environment within which the problem manifests itself, >>>> that in itself becomes a huge more complex black box problem. In basic >>>> systems analysis, problems identified as Black Box are more complex to >>>> solve because the box has quite a mix of unknown factors in the system's >>>> environment driving the system in unknown measurements and scale. >>>> >>>> While John is every time suggesting solutions to problems in West Nile >>>> which in most cases he associates to lack of leadership, I always kind of >>>> wonder if he carefully and thoroughly examines the the problems from the >>>> various aspects of development (structural, economic, political, social, >>>> mental, etc) before suggesting some of these solutions. >>>> Without careful evaluation and analysis of some of these aspects of the >>>> problems, >>>> I will beg to say that though some of the solutions he suggest may sound >>>> good on paper they are shallow and hollow in addressing the problems. >>>> The Building of the Arua Airport should not be framed as something Amin's >>>> son, Hussein Lumumba should go and beg Museveni for. I wonder what news >>>> John reads or listens to for him to suggest that Hussein should go to >>>> Museveni to ask him for money to build Arua Airport in memory and honor of >>>> his late dad. >>>> Up to this day if John does not know that among all the past heads of >>>> state or former presidents of Uganda, the most denigrated, abused, >>>> insulted and if I may add hated person even at death by Museveni is Amin. >>>> How dare John suggest that Hussein should go and beg Museveni for money to >>>> build Arua Airport to honour his late dad!!! >>>> If up to this day, the Presidential emoluments past presidents and their >>>> families are entitled to, which I think is written in the Constitution of >>>> Uganda has likely not been >>>> paid to the Amin family, what on earth is this handshake John is talking >>>> about. >>>> Sometime back in one of the national newspapers, I read Hussein Lumumba >>>> expressing his disgust with the government over the failure of the >>>> government to pay what is due to the family. Why should the government not >>>> pay the emoluments to the Amin family when he was a head is state and was >>>> a civil servant of the government and entitled to those emoluments as >>>> prescribed in the laws of Uganda. >>>> >>>> If John upto this time has not quite understood the politics of patronage, >>>> nepotism, corruption, military dictatorship in today's Uganda and its >>>> physical , social, mental, economic and political effects, then it would >>>> be advisable for him to go and research and analyze some of these basic >>>> issues before he begins to assert the lack of leadership in West Nile, and >>>> thus lack of development in the region. >>>> >>>> The development of Arua Airport should not in anyway be a favour to the >>>> people of West Nile where Hussein should go and beg Museveni so as to >>>> honor the late Amin. Amin may have made his mistakes but who among >>>> Uganda' s leaders has not. history will judge all the Ugandan leaders. But >>>> the suggestion of asking Hussein to go and beg Museveni for money for the >>>> airport to honor Amin was a regrettable statement. Why not ask the MPs >>>> who are kneeling and sucking to Museveni as if he owns Uganda for >>>> municipalities, districts, and city status in the name of bringing >>>> services nearer to the people! What I do not understand is how John's >>>> assertion of lack of leadership in West Nile has to do with Hussein going >>>> to ask Museveni for money to build Arua Airport in honor of his late dad. >>>> I am not sure if John knows or understands under what jurisdiction the >>>> Airport falls and the development of the Airport should never be a favour >>>> to West Nile, but a government development project to improve >>>> infrastructure and services that improve the economic and social welfare >>>> of the country not only the people of West Nile. If the Airport was in >>>> control of the district government and district government leaders failed >>>> to develop it, I think the blame of lack leadership in the region would be >>>> a fair statement. >>>> Even in this kind scenario, other political, economic factors would still >>>> need to be considered before apportioning any blame on the leaders. >>>> >>>> I am sure John is aware of the problems Retired Bishop of Arua Diocese >>>> ,Fr. Drandua, endured some years back about the plans to building Nyagak >>>> Dam before it was given to the current Museveni croonies ! I wonder if >>>> John is aware of why the Arua- Rhinocamp, road via Terego and the road >>>> from Arua to Lodonga still through Terego is not built. Now that Kassiano >>>> Wadri is no longer the MP of Terego, I am sure the building of the road >>>> must be in high gear. >>>> The point I am trying to make here is that the politics of patronage and >>>> corruption and mediocre government officials who have no development goals >>>> but rather corruption has destroyed the fabric of Uganda and West Nile our >>>> region inclusive. >>>> The partition of the region in the name of service delivery has never >>>> delivered any services other than unnecessarily huge administrative >>>> expenditure with the huge number of MPs whose bottom line in the money. >>>> Look for example at the politics a of patronage in Koboko county with a >>>> population of probably less than 300,000 people. Why would such a >>>> population need 4 MPs to represent such a small population that could be >>>> represented by one MP. With all this Patronage how is Koboko better than >>>> other areas in West Nile with fewer MPs >>>> >>>> The lack of serious development in West Nile is not lack of leadership, >>>> but something I associate with political patronage and lack free >>>> environment for people to determine their destiny. If the Museveni >>>> government is removed and political freedom is established where people >>>> make honest decisions for their destiny, it will not take long for West >>>> Nile region to develop. >>>> >>>> My personal opinion >>>> Vasco >>>> Sent from my iPad >>>> >>>>> On Mar 19, 2016, at 6:58 AM, JohnAJackson <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> LEADERSHIP & PROBLEM SOLVING >>>>> Leadership is all about problem solving. Good leaders rally people around >>>>> solving a common problem >>>>> Back in 1970's, Arua airport was being upgraded to International >>>>> standards at a time when Idi Amin was in power. This project was >>>>> abandoned at the climax of Palestinian Israel conflict. All it left was >>>>> valleys by soil erosion and Israelis left off with our beautiful top soil >>>>> leaving behind barren land. >>>>> This would be a perfect project where Husein could go to M7 and ask for >>>>> money to rebuild this airport in honor of his dad. Hopefully, M7 would >>>>> give Husein money as a hand sake and good gesture. >>>>> Rebuilding this airport as the second largest and busiest airport in >>>>> Uganda could generate perhaps 100 to 200 jobs or more. The macroeconomic >>>>> impact of this project could spin off other jobs for instance >>>>> warehousing, restaurants, hotels, etc. >>>>> Rebuilding Arua airport could open both passenger and cargo traffic to DR >>>>> Congo and South Sudan. Instead of politicking this issue, our leaders >>>>> should look at business opportunities we are not exploiting or taking >>>>> seriously. We need to look at opportunity cost. >>>>> A decade ago, another MP who became a minister ran on this platform and >>>>> promised that he would rebuild this airport. I do not want to give names. >>>>> Many of you on this forum will remember the beating of those empty drums >>>>> a decade ago. >>>>> Ladies and gentleman, let us face reality of problems facing this region. >>>>> Some of the problems facing us require simple dialogue with stakeholders. >>>>> Let's try to look at simple problems within our reach. Let us start >>>>> talking about simple issues we can solve. Big issues that require >>>>> government intervention let's involve our political leaders from this >>>>> region to lobby the government to correct some of the problems. This is >>>>> the very reason why we elected representatives. >>>>> Above all, let us have intellectual and respectful discussion over some >>>>> of this problems. Shying away, quitting the forum is not a gateway to >>>>> problem resolution. Let us figure some way to take matters we discuss in >>>>> this forum to the community. >>>>> There are hundreds of highly qualified people on this forum from various >>>>> professions. Don't be a silent listener. Contribute brilliant ideas on >>>>> how we can address some of the challenges facing us as a community. >>>>> Thank you >>>>> JJ >>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, Mar 19, 2016 at 4:08 AM, Mail Service Team >>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> Dear John, >>>>>> Bravo, you have got it RIGHT. >>>>>> Let our bro Hussein join Authors Forum in writing books and making >>>>>> documentaries of our Late President Amin's Life series in Kampala for >>>>>> making money to support westnile problem sloution and Amins family form >>>>>> a credible AMIN FOUNDATION for which we can subscribe to as members.CAN >>>>>> this forum help us organise THINK TANK Innovations of both physical >>>>>> meetings and media networking. >>>>>> For my sister Kamure, opting out is never a solution,face the frying >>>>>> pans.Don't go away for we need you. >>>>>> Nice week end. >>>>>> Cliff >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 10:22 PM, JohnAJackson <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> Dear brothers and sisters, >>>>>>> While Idi Amin did great things at his time, I think time has come >>>>>>> where we need to encourage junior Amin to write volumes and volumes of >>>>>>> books on his dad's past life. This is best way to retain knowledge so >>>>>>> that younger generations can read it later. Bombarding this forum with >>>>>>> Idi Amin stuff has become unpalatable, boring and makes no more sense. >>>>>>> Perhaps majority of us communicating in this forum were kids during >>>>>>> Amin's regime and never saw the benefit of his presidency in West Nile >>>>>>> region. Correct me if I am wrong. >>>>>>> We have serious social and economic development challenges facing our >>>>>>> region we need to come together as a team and address some of the >>>>>>> problems. Doing nothing only continues to hurt a generation of youth >>>>>>> some of whom are our nephews, nieces, cousins, sisters, brothers or >>>>>>> even our own children. >>>>>>> For instance look at youth unemployment in this region. There is nearly >>>>>>> 80-90 % school drop out rate at all levels. Where do some of these >>>>>>> youth end up? Just roaming in towns or villages doing nothing but >>>>>>> drinking alcohol, smoking marijuana, Mirraa, etc. >>>>>>> Do we really need government intervention to stop or reduce some of >>>>>>> these obvious problems in our community? Some of the issues need >>>>>>> engaging our communities in finding productive solutions right from the >>>>>>> grassroots level. Educating people and empowering them through mass >>>>>>> media could go a long way in solving some these problems or saving our >>>>>>> community from self destruction. >>>>>>> It may sound like a joking matter to say "why do I have to care about >>>>>>> people who do not care about themselves"? In any place where there are >>>>>>> thousands of idle people, crime rates go up. Issues like starvation >>>>>>> will continue to haunt this region as older hard working generation die >>>>>>> off. Mental health issues is on rise. Should we wait for the government >>>>>>> to come and rescue us? >>>>>>> I think it time we all come together and harness our human potential >>>>>>> from these forum or region and take the wild bull in our own hands >>>>>>> before it gets out of control. >>>>>>> Are we going to raise a generation of youth whose job is only SECURITY >>>>>>> GUARDS in Kampala & CASAVU in the sugar estates? Brothers and sisters, >>>>>>> lets think twice! >>>>>>> JJ >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 6:24 AM, Mail Service Team >>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> Dear Westnilers, >>>>>>>> Greetings to you all. >>>>>>>> I do hope this social network forum is meant for sharing tangible >>>>>>>> issues of paramount interest of our region than merely >>>>>>>> politicking propaganda with NO substantive benefits. >>>>>>>> Majority of our regional issues require mutual solutions at both >>>>>>>> personal and community level with minimal political interventions. >>>>>>>> Does our young youth spending 90% of their time smoking the Sudanese >>>>>>>> kind of intoxicated Smoke in towns and Chewing mairungi and people >>>>>>>> relying on mairungi farming, for subsistence, poor education >>>>>>>> performance in both primary and secondary need political solution? >>>>>>>> What have we done at both individual and forum level than always >>>>>>>> lamentations on other peoples" affairs. >>>>>>>> Thank you Admin. >>>>>>>> Cliff >>>>>>>> Tel:+256782308172 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 11:57 AM, Beatrice A >>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> Dear Admin, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I concur with Jimmy, kindly unsubscribe me from this mailing list. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Regards. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Beatrice Kamure >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> From: WestNileNet [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of >>>>>>>>> Jimmy Awuzu Angubo >>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 8:11 PM >>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>> Subject: [WestNileNet] Unsubscribe >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi Admin, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Could you kindly unsubscribe me from this mailing list, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thank you, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Jimmy Awuzu Angubo >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> WestNileNet mailing list >>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>> http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them >>>>>>>>> (including attachments if any). 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