Rob,
Understood, though if I didn't misunderstand the original poster the point was to make 
the application start, still have access to it (WUG applications) and have it be 
fairly secure.

I presented the option of starting the WUG application in a terminal server session, 
not on the console.  This keeps the console securely locked, and runs WUG in a 
terminal server session (away from colicky fingers and prying eyes).

Someone else suggested VNC, which also uses the console access, which defeats the 
purpose of no console access.

Someone please let me know if I am on the wrong track here.

Thanks,
-Ray

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Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 1:12 PM
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About the automatically starting on reboot drawback, with win2k and XP
it is possible to set things up to automatically log in. Then all you
have to do is put a shortcut to WhatsUp in the startup folder.

To set up autologin

1. From the command line, type "control userpasswords", (or for XP
"control userpasswords2")
2. On the Users tab, clear the Users Must Enter A User Name And Password
To Use This Computer check box and then click OK.
3. In the Automatically Log On dialog box that appears, type the user
name and password for the account you want to be log in as each time the
computer starts.

If you then want to automatically lock the desktop, add a batch file to
the startup folder with the following command: rundll32.exe user32.dll,
LockWorkStation

Bob Kent
UITS Network Engineering
University of CT


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That is correct sir.

The process looks something like this:
1.) Connect to the terminal server and log in.
2.) Open the WUG application and minimize.
3.) Disconnect (do not log "off") by doing START/SHUTDOWN, then choosing
disconnect, or clicking the "x" on the terminal server window.
4.) Reconnect to make changes as needed, rinse, repeat...

The only real disadvantage is that the WUG application cannot be
automatically started on server reboot.  It has been communicated that
if any OS upgrade/changes require a reboot to the server are needed that
the tech MUST follow the above process to restart the WUG application.

-Ray

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Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 11:35 AM
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So if I understand you right you leave a terminal session logged in
running WUG and just log in when you need to make changes?

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/08/04 11:05AM >>>
Hi,
We have been running WUG in a terminal server session in Windows 2K for
over 2 years now.  This does several things for us.

Allows remote administration of the application without resorting to the
web interface <--yuk!.
Allows the server console to be secured by not having a logged in user.

On another note, I would love to see Ipswitch do a major overhaul of the
WUG user administration.  There is much room for improvement in that
area such as User groups, "copy user" option, etc..

Ray Williams
Broadband Data Engineer II
Data Engineering, New England
Cox Communications Inc.

Office: 401-615-1191
Cell:   401-641-0626


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Subject: [WhatsUp Forum] Running What's Up Gold as a service


I would like to know what everyone's opinion is on running What's Up
Gold as a service or as a window app? I seem to have better luck running
it as a window app. Faster web response, easier to edit the maps, and
several of my monitors work correctly, but I don't like leaving my
server logged in.


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