On Apr 3, 2007, at 9:47 AM, Gervase Markham wrote:
Maciej Stachowiak wrote:
Maciej Stachowiak wrote:
What I mean is that unlike the case for other browser vendors,
it won't cost us anything in patent license fees.
Ah, right. So you want MPEG because it gives Apple (and
Microsoft, I guess) a financial competitive advantage over other
browsers.
Why do you have to spin everything in such an inflammatory way? If
you are actually trying to make an argument and not just
grandstanding you might want to assume some minimum of good faith
on our part.
I really don't think that's spinning - it's just a restatement of
what you said. You said "[Apple would prefer MPEG because], unlike
the case for other browser vendors, we don't have to pay fees.",
which is pretty much the same as "[Apple would prefer MPEG because]
other browsers would have to pay fees and we wouldn't" - which is a
financial advantage.
This isn't the first time you've restated something in what seems
like a needlessly inflammatory way. Your earlier message in the
thread basically said that unless Apple implements Ogg Theora, we
"don't actually have a commitment to interoperability".
Where's the spin? If you don't want us to read those words at face
value and draw the obvious conclusions, then don't list "not having
to pay fees" as an advantage for you of MPEG.
The more charitable interpretation would be that this is a lack of
disadvantage for Apple, rather than an unfair benefit. Not going to
debate this further.
We're fine with the current spec language. Saying nothing at all
would be better, but a SHOULD is fine. I followed up on this
thread because you seem to be advocating a mandatory requirement.
I believe my first comment in this thread talked about SHOULD. I
haven't mentioned MUST.
If the goal of your original was not to elevate the SHOULD
requirement to a MUST, but rather to persuade Apple to implement Ogg
even though we think we have good reasons not to, then you may want
to try a different approach. Also, this list is probably not the
right forum for such discussion.
Regards,
Maciej
