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Re: [whatwg] HTML as a text format: Should be optional?</span></a></span> </h1> <p class="darkgray font13"> <span class="sender pipe"><a href="/search?l=whatwg@lists.whatwg.org&q=from:%22Randy+Drielinger%22" rel="nofollow"><span itemprop="author" itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/Person"><span itemprop="name">Randy Drielinger</span></span></a></span> <span class="date"><a href="/search?l=whatwg@lists.whatwg.org&q=date:20090417" rel="nofollow">Fri, 17 Apr 2009 16:02:47 -0700</a></span> </p> </div> <div itemprop="articleBody" class="msgBody">  <pre>If you're converting from a textfile, title could refer to the filename. If it's an automated process, it can be added by default.</pre><pre> If it's manual, they'll have to remember the short html5 doctype and the title element. Personally I don't see any reason to make title optional. ----- Oorspronkelijk bericht ----- Van: Øistein E. Andersen <li...@coq.no> Verzonden: vrijdag 17 april 2009 21:49 Aan: wha...@whatwg.org Onderwerp: [whatwg] HTML as a text format: Should <title> be optional? HTML can be used as an advanced text format, and people may want to convert existing plain text to HTML. For example's sake, consider the following: > A Short Document > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > This is a short plain-text document which someone > might want to convert into HTML. > > As faithful readers of this list will recall, > /Règles typographiques/ requires note names to be > typeset in italics (/ut/, /ré/, /mi/, etc.), > which is not possible in plain text. This corresponds to the following HTML: > <h1>A Short Document</h1> > > <p>This is a short plain-text document which someone > might want to convert into HTML. > > <p>As faithful readers of this list will recall, > <i>Règles typographiques</i> requires note names to be > typeset in italics (<i>ut</i>, <i>ré</i>, <i>mi</i>, etc.), > which is not possible in plain text. Unfortunately, this is not valid; the following two lines must be added to the top: > <!DOCTYPE html> > <title>A Short Document</title> The DOCTYPE is unfortunate, but seems impossible to get rid of at this point. A <title> is usually a good idea, but is it really necessary to require this for conformance? After all, a <title> is not something which an author is likely to forget, and leaving it out has no unexpected consequences. -- Øistein E. 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