Hi Ed,

(Remember to use the HTML Standard, located at 
https://html.spec.whatwg.org/multipage/links.html#link-type-bookmark, not any 
forks of it.)

Right now the bookmark link relation has a specific purpose, as you can read in 
the spec:

> The bookmark keyword gives a permalink for the nearest ancestor article 
> element of the linking element in question, or of the section the linking 
> element is most closely associated with, if there are no ancestor article 
> elements.

Your proposal is essentially to give it an entirely separate meaning when used 
in the context of the <link> element, but that's not usually how we share link 
relations between the different elements: cf. alternate, author, help, license, 
next, etc.

At least, that is how I understand; I'm having a hard time distinguishing what 
"identifier" is for in practice, and in particular why it is different than 

-----Original Message-----
From: whatwg [mailto:whatwg-boun...@lists.whatwg.org] On Behalf Of Ed Summers
Sent: Saturday, August 5, 2017 21:07
To: wha...@whatwg.org
Subject: [whatwg] rel=bookmark

Hi all,

I was wondering if anyone can provide any information, or a pointer to previous 
discussion, about why the bookmark link relation can't be used with the <link> 
element [1].

The topic has come up recently on the IETF link-relations discussion list [2] 
where a new link relation has been proposed to encourage persistent linking 
[3]. The proposed 'identifier' relation seems to closely resemble the idea of a 
permalink (a persistent link) that can be found in the definition of bookmark. 
If bookmark allowed use with the <link> element then I think there would be 
less of a demonstrated need for the new 'identifier' link relation.

Thanks for any information you can provide. I apologize if I'm restarting a 
conversation that has already happened.


[1] https://www.w3.org/TR/html5/links.html#link-type-bookmark
[2] https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/link-relations/current/msg00670.html
[3] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-vandesompel-identifier/

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