I've been pretty pleased with Cayenne and I'm starting soon on a Cayenne
implementation of Jonathan L's wicket-contrib-database stuff.  Also, the
RAD components I'm building (and hope to check in within a week or two)
are abstracted enough to support different ORM tools  (mainly my
filtered List component)

One caveat is that my uses so far haven't forced me to tune the default
Cayenne options for speed so I wouldn't be a good resource for that.  I
was satisfied with their explanations of prefetching and query caching,
etc.  The developers do seem to be very helpful and quick to respond,
and the traffic on the mailing list is consistently good.

It would probably help to have another person on the Cayenne mailing
list who is enthusiastic about Wicket.  The last time I touted Wicket on
the list, they seemed interested, but it became obvious that many of
them were already committed to Tapestry -- hence the Tapestry example on
their site with no Wicket example.  :-(

- Jonathan Carlson


>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2005-08-25 11:05:03 PM >>>

        I am seriously considering dumping Hibernate in favor of Cayenne

because the former has a multitude of bugs and usability issues I ran 
into which the authors refuse to acknowledge (don't mention the word 
"bug" on their discussion forum or else they will ban you. No joke!). 
Anyone who honestly thinks their software has no bugs *has* to be 
delusional in my book.

        Anyway, I'm wondering whether anyone has tried using Cayenne
before? I 
noticed a lot of Wicket users have had experience with Hibernate so I 
figured this was a good place to ask. I read that Cayenne is 
feature-equivilent to Hibernate but the developers are far more
friendly 
and their support base is stronger. With Hibernate whenever I ran into

trouble and try asking for help the developers first tell me off, then

proceed to tell me to go buy their book. Now, I can hardly fault them 
for their capitalistic ploy, but I have a hard time justifying to
myself 
having to pay money to people who badger users asking for help.
Frankly, 
I hope they crash and burn for their attitude.

        So back to the point. Does anyone have any experience with
Cayenne or 
maybe Apache OJB? I'm look at 
http://c2.com/cgi-bin/wiki?ObjectRelationalToolComparison for a 
comparison but it is rather dry. I'm looking for practical experience 
from real people. Let me know...

Gili
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