Just to clarify...
1) It makes no sense to expect Googlebot to retain a session (contains
PageMap, etc) for stateless pages because multiple bots hit the website
at the same time in a non-linear order. If we try to force some sort of
linear state on Google it might end up with "Page is expired" where it
does not make sense.
2) Page indexability is *very* important to me, even more important than
page expiration and back-button support. Not sure about how it affects
other users.
If one of the developers could post more technical details behind this
problem maybe other users on this list will have some ideas on how to
solve it. I'm sure Wicket isn't the first framework to run into this
sort of problem, how did others solve it?
Gili
Michael Day wrote:
> Hi,
>
> We have been discussing this quite a bit on IRC, but I want to bring it
> to the list for more exposure. As far as I understand, wicket currently
> has a concept of "stateless pages", which are pages that are not stored
> in the session. Unfortunately, there is no way to avoid session
> creation on the very first hit. This means that any user hitting your
> application will be assigned a sessionid. This is very bad because for
> a couple of reasons:
>
> 1. Search engines obviously don't like sessions and they don't support
> cookies. This prevents your site from being crawled and indexed properly.
>
> 2. Performance - creating a session means that it must be serialized in
> a cluster (even if there is no data?). Why do this when there is no
> technical justification?
>
> With the recent changes regarding PageMaps, is it possible to defer
> session creation until a user hits a stateful page? If not, then wicket
> cannot be used for public web sites (news, online store, etc) that need
> to be indexed in today's search engines.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Michael Day
>
>
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