sure the whole abstraction thing is good but that means doing some database in wicket based on this example mandates learning some spring and some hibernate...meaning that the more paradigms the more complexity on setting up small web applications.
this is completely false. you should say "the more paradigms you dont know the more complexity on setting up small web applications."
-Igor
On 9/22/06, Igor Vaynberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:bah, ruby on rails is too complex imho. lets use coldfusion instead. i can knock out any app in coldfusion probably 2x the speed of you knocking it out in ror :)-------------------------------------------------------------------------
-IgorOn 9/22/06, Ayodeji Aladejebi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
What kind of integration are you talking about? Isn't it a good idea to
keep database/persistence code and application/gui code independent?
/Anders
It makes sense to do that when you want to design a larger enteprise application but not for small web applications, why all the issues. when u see a framework like ruby on rails, you will understand why may be soon all web applications on the planet may be using ruby on rails because they keep the simple things really very simple.Eelco Hillenius wrote:
> If someone would provide a JDBC version of wicket-phonebook, that
> would be welcome! We talked about wanting this, but haven't found any
> time to do this ourselves yet.
>
> Eelco
>
>
> On 9/21/06, Igor Vaynberg < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> look at wicket-phonebook, it uses wicket and spring. there are dao
>> implementations for hibernate and ibatis, but it would be trivial to write
>> one for jdbc. spring takes care of all the connection/transaction management
>> for you.
>>
>> if you dont want spring and want to write something for pure jdbc i would
>> store a datasource in application, and subclass request cycle to
>> open/close/rollback/commit the transaction assuming you want a
>> single-transaction-per-request pattern.
>>
>> -Igor
>>
>>
>>
>> On 9/21/06, Ayodeji Aladejebi < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
>>>
>>> Okay I know of all the contrib projects, databinder, hibernate stuffs etc,
>> I have used databinder and its lovely but I think for some reason, database
>> in wicket needs to be sort of easier to put up to encourage faster
>> adaptation. Come to think about it, presently most of the present solutions
>> around database in Wicket wraps around Hibernate and a beginner who is not
>> familair with hibernate may get stuck. Some developers still tend to love
>> thier SQL thing compared to ORM and in some cases, you want to do direct SQL
>> cuz hibernate3.jar is some size you may not need to include in your portable
>> web application. And believe me, i believe more ppl learn SQL more than they
>> learn ORM in Schools
>>> Yesterday, I was tryin to use Dababinder or wicket-contrib-dababase but at
>> the same time i was using the wicket-auth framework and all these contibs
>> enforce that you extend XXXApplication in your Application Class which means
>> you cannot directly use Contrib projects e.g wicket-contrib-database and
>> also Wicket-auth. There should be a more elegant way to use multiple contrib
>> projects without this Inheritance lock jam.
>>> Now most web applications need authentication and also need database which
>> is why i believe wicket shoud somehow integrate some DAO scheme into wicket
>> where all we do is set connection properties and from Components, you can
>> fly CRUD.
>>> Well i know there must be some good reasons to exclude this from wicket
>> but what will be the most elegant way to do CRUD in wicket? where should I
>> store my Connection? Session or Application Class. Should I create a parent
>> WebPage with all the SQL stuffs and then make other CRUD pages extend it. a
>> hundred ways to do this but which way is more elegant?
>>> Thanks Wicket dads
>>>
>>>
>>>
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