The first argument was that not every application needs to scale to thousands of concurrent users. The second argument is that active replication is only one strategy for clustering. In practise, server affinity is also a very good option.

Perhaps another argument, that I did not mention yet, is that the next version of wicket will also provide other ways for storing session state. But, in my experience, always leave out the weak arguments (everyone knows the next version will solve all the problems, but if it doesn't exist....). If there is one weak argument, people tend to attack that and the other strong arguments get forgotten.

Cheers
  Erik

On 9/26/06, Erik van Oosten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
(Breaking my week-long self-inflicted moratorium)

Erik, I am very interested in your other arguments that would interest
big slow companies.

Regards,
     Erik.


Erik Brakkee schreef:
> Hi all,
>
>
> A collegue of mine at a very big and slow organization is evaluating
> web frameworks, of which one is wicket. As expected, there is the
> remark that wicket is not scalable because of its use of session scope.
>
> I already gave the most important arguments, but it would be nice to
> have some good links for backing these arguments. In paticular, the
> link where (I think it was Eelco) mentioned that in a number of
> comparisons between web frameworks it was shown that wicket actually
> stores less in the session than other frameworks. This is a really
> strong argument, especially when backed up by real data. Nevertheless,
> I couldn't find this information anymore. Are there links to the
> applications (downloadable) proving this point?
>
> Cheers
>   Erik

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http://www.day-to-day-stuff.blogspot.com/


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