I guess it depends on what you're doing, but while I do have other levels of testing, i.e. local WebLogic on WinXP & remote WebLogic on Solaris, I've yet to come across anything that differs between Jetty & WebLogic during my development use. While I'd certainly advocate final testing on the target platform, my experience is that since Java 2 or so, "developing under one platform and deploying into another" is a viable and realistic scenario. Obviously, this excludes any JNI work, but most server-side work should be fine.
/Gwyn On 06/10/06, cowwoc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > uh :) I understand he mentioned he's having issues with JBOSS but > baring that I would agree with him that developing under one platform > and deploying into another is asking for trouble. Jetty can't possibly > behave 100% like your target platform. > > I personally use Netbeans with Tomcat or Glassfish. It integrates > quite > nice (auto reloads and all). > > Gili > > Gwyn Evans wrote: > > "Dude", you'd have been better to stop at "I'm not here to get into an > > argument". The point that you missed is that Wicket can normally be > > developed very well using Jetty on my laptop as the most convienient > > way of running the web-app, then deployed onto whatever production > > appserver is required - personally, I deploy to a WebLogic system on > > Solaris. > > > > /Gwyn > > > > On 06/10/06, craigdd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Dude, I'm not here to get into an argument here, but you obviously haven't > >> worked in many corporate settings, you don't always get to pick and choose > >> which app servers you are using. Jetty is NOT an option for us. > >> > >> As for the redeployment, that is a fine idea, however with the size of our > >> application redeploying is extremely slow, way worse then compiling to the > >> WEB-INF/classes dir and bouncing the container. > >> > >> > >> > >> igor.vaynberg wrote: > >>> mainstream enough to attract developers that are smart enough to figure > >>> out > >>> that the path of least resistence is to develop on jetty and deploy on > >>> jboss > >>> :) > >>> > >>> if you need app server features like ejb then the solution is not to > >>> restart > >>> the server, but to force it to redeploy your app. > >>> > >>> -Igor > >>> > >>> > >>> On 10/6/06, craigdd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Yes, my next step is to check the jboss forums, I sort of figured a lot > >>>> of > >>>> people that where using wicket might also be using jboss and had figured > >>>> out > >>>> this issue because it greatly affects the efficiency of development. > >>>> > >>>> I'm getting the impression that most people are using jetty with wicket > >>>> which makes me wonder how main stream this framework is. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> igor.vaynberg wrote: > >>>>> why not ask on the jboss forums? what you want to ask is that if jboss > >>>> can > >>>>> be launched to take advantage of jvm's hotswap. > >>>>> > >>>>> -Igor > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On 10/6/06, craigdd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> So in other words the out come to my question is that NO, jboss can > >>>> not > >>>>>> be > >>>>>> configured to reloaded changed classes without restarting the > >>>> container. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Erik van Oosten wrote: > >>>>>>> Martijn Dashorst wrote: > >>>>>>>> Doesn't JBoss IDE start the jboss container in debug mode? > >>>>>>> Indeed, it does start jboss in debug mode. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> craigdd wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I don't think debug mode in jboss allows the reloading of classes, > >>>> i > >>>>>>>> believe > >>>>>>>> it it just for remote debugging. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Indeed again, JBoss is directly started from Eclipse (as all > >>>> programs > >>>>>>> you start from Eclipse). Strictly there is no class reloading, but > >>>> you > >>>>>>> _can_ change classes on the fly. Just remember that when you restart > >>>>>>> JBoss, you must recompile and redeploy your changed classes. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Regards, > >>>>>>> Erik. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>> Erik van Oosten > >>>>>>> http://day-to-day-stuff.blogspot.com/ > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>>>> Take Surveys. Earn Cash. 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