Yes, I think that it is important to focus in the wikis topic. It is so
broad that hardly would need more than that, I neither understand the
WikiSym move to OpenSym.

But not only a new journal, we have an opportunity to create a more open
publication model, using a... wiki for all the steps (writing,
peer-reviewing and final publication).

I see this project like a big experiment. All we need is a wiki, some
volunteers to write papers and some volunteers to peer-review them. After a
year of work, we can publish all the "approved" papers as the Journal of
Wikis, Vol. 1, Issue 1.

Volunteers?



2012/11/2 Piotr Konieczny <[email protected]>

>  This is not a list for researching collaboration support software, this
> is a list for discussing one specific type of it, the wikis (with a focus
> on Wikipedia). I see nothing wrong with retaining this focus, and I am
> surprised that the rather successful WikiSym is trying to reframe itself.
> Perhaps it makes sense for a conference, although I am not convinced. For
> journal, there is certainly a scope for a (the...) journal limited to wiki
> studies. There is already a number of journals dedicated to collaboration
> support software (International Journal of Computer-Supported Collaborative
> Learning - http://ijcscl.org/ ; International Journal of e-Collaboration
> -
> http://www.igi-global.com/journal/international-journal-collaboration-ijec/1090;
>  The Journal of Collaborative Computing and Work Practices -
> http://www.springer.com/computer/journal/10606), plus some more broad
> journals on collaboration (International Journal of Collaborative Practices
> - http://collaborative-practices.com/ ; Journal of collaboration -
> http://www.springerlink.com/content/g22377427w636731/). Starting an n-th
> journal on that topic seems rather pointless to me, the only redeeming
> grace would be that ours would be open source (most others are closed).
> Much better, IMHO, to start the FIRST journal of wiki studies. A more
> narrow field, yes, but much more badly in need of a journal than the
> broader field of collaboration support software, which already has several
> related journals.
>
> --
> Piotr Konieczny
>
> "To be defeated and not submit, is victory; to be victorious and rest on 
> one's laurels, is defeat." --Józef Pilsudski
>
> On 11/1/2012 2:21 PM, Aaron Halfaker wrote:
>
> > I'd suggest focusing on the area of wiki studies, nothing more and
> nothing less.
>
>  I don't think that this is a good strategy.  Wiki's are just one type of
> collaboration support software.  What if the artifact of collaboration is
> not hypertext?  Most people would not consider a open source code
> repository to be a "wiki" without doing some stretching, but as far as the
> contribution model goes, it is nearly the same.
>
>  Recently, the steering committee of WikiSym became aware of the problem
> of branding the conference around a single open collaboration technology
> and has started a transition from "WikiSym" to "OpenSym".
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 11:14 AM, Piotr Konieczny <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On 11/1/2012 7:45 AM, Pierre-Carl Langlais wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> *Technical issue : we probably need a specific wiki. Whereas not highly
>>> sophisticated, it should perhaps include some reading functions in order to
>>> make the journal main content easy to read and to refer to.
>>>
>>  What's wrong with hosting it at one of WMF wikis? Meta or Wikiversity
>> seem rather appropriate?
>>
>>
>>  *Scientific issue : the journal requires rather a broad and definite
>>> general thematic, in order to receive diverse and, yet, coherent
>>> submissions. Perhaps a focus on epistemological topics (open access…) or
>>> communication topics (wiki-system and so on…) could deem appropriate, as it
>>> would allow to go beyond disciplinary barriers.
>>>
>>
>>  I'd suggest focusing on the area of wiki studies, nothing more and
>> nothing less.
>>
>>
>>  *Financial issue : a small grant from the WMF would be enough to start.
>>> As the journal is to rely on volunteer work, all we have to do is to ensure
>>> the technical bare necessities.
>>>
>>>
>>  WMF grants procedure is here:
>> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Index
>> Through I am not sure what costs would involved, if it is hosted at a WMF
>> wiki, and run by volunteers.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Piotr Konieczny
>>
>> "To be defeated and not submit, is victory; to be victorious and rest on
>> one's laurels, is defeat." --Józef Pilsudski
>>
>>
>>
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