Brian has a good idea, and I think that e.g. the Journal of Peer Production could be potentially open to being hijacked :)
Reviewers cannot be anonymous to the managing editor if the journal is to satisfy the traditional criteria of peer review. However, one simple innovation would be allowing comments on the submission, the accepted paper, and the reviews. Per engine, wiki is not good for handling the review turnaround process (vital, as successful journals receive several submissions a day and tracking deadlines, reviewers and editors has to be semi automated) and also relatively clumsy in producing page numbered pdf issues. However, there are at least two proven open source engines to use. I myself run one journal based on OJS. 2 lis 2012 23:20, "Brian Keegan" <[email protected]> napisał(a): > Have you all considered whether the costs of bootstrapping up a set of > editors and authors, playing the impact factor game, and articulating a > mission that is broad enough to include computer scientists and historians > warrant the benefits of having yet another outlet to publish wiki research? > The bootstrapping problem is particularly severe for the reasons Dariusz > outlined. > > I suspect "hijacking" existing journal infrastructures in your respective > domains to have special issues on Wikis and Open Collaboration (the recent > American Behavioral Scientist special issue comes to mind) is a far more > practicable approach to developing the critical mass of interest in your > respective fields in the near term. The longer-term goal should be to bend > receptive open publication outlets (e.g., First Monday, Journal of Computer > Mediated Communication, EPJ Data Science, PLoS One, etc.) toward more > wiki-like models. > > On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 6:10 PM, Piotr Konieczny <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I would like to volunteer to help, but I agree with Darek that we need >> to aim towards entering serious journal rankings from day 1. I think we can >> both experiment with the wiki publishing model, and prepare a pdf versions >> if needed for the traditionalists; it's not like it's difficult - MediaWiki >> has a pdf-export option (wikibook), and it is a standard feature in >> Open/Libre Office, too. >> >> -- >> Piotr Konieczny >> >> >> On 11/2/2012 5:58 AM, Dariusz Jemielniak wrote: >> >> unfortunately, if you want to make impact in the Academia, the approach >> of "all we need is a wiki" will not work. Even the most avid enthusiasts of >> open publication models and of wiki usually do have career-paths, tenure >> reviews, etc. As long as reality is as it is now, we'd have to have a >> "proper" journal, with PDFs, page numbers, etc., and an aim to enter the >> journal rankings, because otherwise the top researchers will have a strong >> incentive not to even consider our journal in their publications. >> >> best, >> >> dj >> >> >> On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 10:42 AM, emijrp <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Yes, I think that it is important to focus in the wikis topic. It is so >>> broad that hardly would need more than that, I neither understand the >>> WikiSym move to OpenSym. >>> >>> But not only a new journal, we have an opportunity to create a more open >>> publication model, using a... wiki for all the steps (writing, >>> peer-reviewing and final publication). >>> >>> I see this project like a big experiment. All we need is a wiki, some >>> volunteers to write papers and some volunteers to peer-review them. After a >>> year of work, we can publish all the "approved" papers as the Journal of >>> Wikis, Vol. 1, Issue 1. >>> >>> Volunteers? >>> >>> >>> >>> 2012/11/2 Piotr Konieczny <[email protected]> >>> >>>> This is not a list for researching collaboration support software, >>>> this is a list for discussing one specific type of it, the wikis (with a >>>> focus on Wikipedia). I see nothing wrong with retaining this focus, and I >>>> am surprised that the rather successful WikiSym is trying to reframe >>>> itself. Perhaps it makes sense for a conference, although I am not >>>> convinced. For journal, there is certainly a scope for a (the...) journal >>>> limited to wiki studies. There is already a number of journals dedicated to >>>> collaboration support software (International Journal of Computer-Supported >>>> Collaborative Learning - http://ijcscl.org/ ; International Journal of >>>> e-Collaboration - >>>> http://www.igi-global.com/journal/international-journal-collaboration-ijec/1090; >>>> The Journal of Collaborative Computing and Work Practices - >>>> http://www.springer.com/computer/journal/10606), plus some more broad >>>> journals on collaboration (International Journal of Collaborative Practices >>>> - http://collaborative-practices.com/ ; Journal of collaboration - >>>> http://www.springerlink.com/content/g22377427w636731/). Starting an >>>> n-th journal on that topic seems rather pointless to me, the only redeeming >>>> grace would be that ours would be open source (most others are closed). >>>> Much better, IMHO, to start the FIRST journal of wiki studies. A more >>>> narrow field, yes, but much more badly in need of a journal than the >>>> broader field of collaboration support software, which already has several >>>> related journals. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Piotr Konieczny >>>> >>>> "To be defeated and not submit, is victory; to be victorious and rest on >>>> one's laurels, is defeat." --Józef Pilsudski >>>> >>>> On 11/1/2012 2:21 PM, Aaron Halfaker wrote: >>>> >>>> > I'd suggest focusing on the area of wiki studies, nothing more and >>>> nothing less. >>>> >>>> I don't think that this is a good strategy. Wiki's are just one type >>>> of collaboration support software. What if the artifact of collaboration >>>> is not hypertext? Most people would not consider a open source code >>>> repository to be a "wiki" without doing some stretching, but as far as the >>>> contribution model goes, it is nearly the same. >>>> >>>> Recently, the steering committee of WikiSym became aware of the >>>> problem of branding the conference around a single open collaboration >>>> technology and has started a transition from "WikiSym" to "OpenSym". >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 11:14 AM, Piotr Konieczny <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 11/1/2012 7:45 AM, Pierre-Carl Langlais wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *Technical issue : we probably need a specific wiki. Whereas not >>>>>> highly sophisticated, it should perhaps include some reading functions in >>>>>> order to make the journal main content easy to read and to refer to. >>>>>> >>>>> What's wrong with hosting it at one of WMF wikis? Meta or Wikiversity >>>>> seem rather appropriate? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *Scientific issue : the journal requires rather a broad and definite >>>>>> general thematic, in order to receive diverse and, yet, coherent >>>>>> submissions. Perhaps a focus on epistemological topics (open access...) >>>>>> or >>>>>> communication topics (wiki-system and so on...) could deem appropriate, >>>>>> as it >>>>>> would allow to go beyond disciplinary barriers. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I'd suggest focusing on the area of wiki studies, nothing more and >>>>> nothing less. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *Financial issue : a small grant from the WMF would be enough to >>>>>> start. As the journal is to rely on volunteer work, all we have to do is >>>>>> to >>>>>> ensure the technical bare necessities. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> WMF grants procedure is here: >>>>> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Index >>>>> Through I am not sure what costs would involved, if it is hosted at a >>>>> WMF wiki, and run by volunteers. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Piotr Konieczny >>>>> >>>>> "To be defeated and not submit, is victory; to be victorious and rest >>>>> on one's laurels, is defeat." --Józef Pilsudski >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Wiki-research-l mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wiki-research-l mailing >>>> [email protected]https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wiki-research-l mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Emilio J. 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