"We should concentrate on factual data for research" in a long email
about how everything is ruined forever because a moderator couldn't
find anything of value in an uncited claim that Jan-Bart actively
drove people away?

This must be what people mean by "mixed methods" ;)

On 4 June 2015 at 18:29, Juergen Fenn <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Am 04.06.2015 um 19:11 schrieb Federico Leva (Nemo) <[email protected]>:
>
>>> Reduced traffic on Wikimedia-l is mostly due to list moderation.
>>
>> That's plausible. "Most" people on wikimedia-l are moderated by now; I and 
>> others unsubscribed due to tyrannical moderation, too.
>
> Well, not exactly tyrannical, as there obviously is a plan behind it not to 
> let anything critical sound on a list that no longer serves the community, 
> but that is just another tool for corporate communication.
>
> Of course, I also unsubscribed from the list, and I will read it from the 
> archive only because I don't subscribe to corporate communication lists.
>
> I agree to Aaron that we should concentrate on factual data for research. 
> However, I'd like to give you an idea of what nowadays is no longer possible 
> on Wikimedia-l because this also serves as an indicator for the "health" of 
> Wikipedia.
>
> The text of my censored email read: "Jan-Bart, you might be aware that it was 
> you that drove many "talented candidates" out of the movement last year. So, 
> no more comment."
>
> And the moderator gave this comment for his decision: "I could not find 
> anything positive in your message.  How would it help the goals of the 
> Wikimedia movement? Regards, Richard."
>
> That's the way Wikipedia works in 2015. So, no more comments about "community 
> health" or whoever's health. I'm off.
>
> Best,
> Jürgen.
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