Ofer Arazy, Felipe Ortega, and Oded Nov have looked at career paths among Wikipedians <http://oferarazy.com/PDF/ArazyOrtegaNovYeoBalila%20CSCW2015.pdf>. Also, Judd Antin, Coye Cheshire, and Nov have looked at how new Wikipedians select into specific roles <https://ai2-s2-pdfs.s3.amazonaws.com/764c/7a3dbe3f141096f5e7acebdb62261bf4bacb.pdf> as editors.
I'm not aware of any work that speaks specifically to the "conversion process" (from 50/500 edits ---> career Wikipedian) that you're talking about, though. On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 9:24 PM, Pine W <[email protected]> wrote: > Hmm. Integrating "push notifications" into training, as well as using them > for recognition and suggestions for skill development, sounds like a good > idea. Thanks for the suggestion! > > Pine > > > On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 7:16 PM, Stuart A. Yeates <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> I have thought about writing a bot that congratulated active users on >> account creation anniversaries and suggested directions for growth. >> "Grats X you've been editing for 2 years, here's a picture of a kitten. >> Have you thought about doing New Page Patrol?" >> >> "Grats Y you've been editing for a decade, here's a virtual beer, you've >> earned it! Have you thought about applying for adminship?" >> >> Of course, you'd want to check account account behaviour pretty carefully >> first. >> >> cheers >> stuart >> >> -- >> ...let us be heard from red core to black sky >> >> On 21 February 2017 at 14:33, Pine W <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hi Kerry, >>> >>> Thanks for the ideas. Jonathan Morgan, Aaron Halfaker, and I have had >>> more than one conversation about wikiprojects as a way to engage with new >>> editors. Unfortunately, there are a lot of derelict wikiprojects. >>> >>> I have some ideas about how to improve the training system for ENWP and >>> Commons in particular. But that's different from the motivation issue, >>> which I think is more challenging. With enough money and time, the training >>> system can be upgraded. I'm not sure if the same is true for motivation. I >>> have the impression that student Wikimedians are mostly motivated by grades >>> (hence the precipitous decline in their participation after their Wikipedia >>> Education Program class ends), and many other people are motivated by money >>> or PR (hence we get a lot of people engaging in promotionalism or PR >>> management.) It's not clear to me how someone goes from being wiki-curious >>> to feeling motivated enough to contribute for years. There are many other >>> hobbies that are lower stress, healthier, offer more opportunities for >>> socializing, and offer a friendlier environment. I think that some >>> Wikimedians are motivated by desire to promote or share their interest in a >>> particular topic, which might keep content creators interested and engaged >>> for years, particularly if they meet people with similar interests. But >>> it's a phase change to go from being a content creator or curator, to >>> taking on roles that benefit other individual Wikimedians, or broad >>> cross-sections of the Wikimedia community. We could use all of those kinds >>> of good-faith long-term contributors. >>> >>> Perhaps we should include information in our training about "career >>> paths" for Wikimedians who would like to develop their skills and/or move >>> into new roles? >>> >>> I'm not sure what else to suggest. I find it challenging to figure out >>> how to motivate people to want to contribute productively for years, and >>> there are some roles for which lengthy experience is an informal but >>> significant prerequisite for acceptance and/or success. I'd like to see >>> more people make that journey. >>> >>> Pine >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 2:10 PM, Kerry Raymond <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Pine, >>>> >>>> It sounds to me that there are two separate parts to your question. >>>> >>>> One relates to the survival of such editors to being ongoing active >>>> editors. The second seems to relate to recruiting them and perhaps >>>> upskilling them for specific purposes, eg administration, guild of copy >>>> editors, and whatever initiatives you have in mind. >>>> >>>> The first question probably relates to being able to get them better >>>> informed about the policies of Wikipedia at least in relation to the area >>>> of their contributions and how to engage with the community because it is >>>> the abrasive interaction with the community that seems to drive people >>>> away. >>>> >>>> The second probably relates to raising awareness of WikiProjects and >>>> other collaborative initiatives. (Obviously all of WP is collaborative, but >>>> some things require higher levels of coordination and I think this might be >>>> what you are referring to). I think probably needs some analysis of the >>>> nature of their contributions and/or their topics of interest in order to >>>> introduce them to targetted WikiProjects etc that seem logical trajectories >>>> for them. The mistake we make constantly in onboarding newbies is >>>> overwhelming them with information (think of the standard Twinkle welcome >>>> templates) because "THEY NEED TO KNOW THIS" instead of what they want to >>>> know "how do I do this current thing I am trying to do". For similar >>>> reasons I think any attempts to draw them into particular >>>> projects/initiatives should be highly targeted, not too frequent, and based >>>> on what their interests seem to be rather where someone else would like >>>> them to work. (I think we should avoid the mindset of "I need to recruit >>>> some cannon fodder"). Having got their attention, someone probably has to >>>> hold their hand through whatever upskilling is needed to get them >>>> productive. Just pointing people at a Project page isn't helpful, there >>>> needs to be some human outreach and shepherding. >>>> >>>> In some idealised universe, we should see Wikipedians as being on a >>>> learning journey, where (through analysis of past contributions and >>>> interactions) we are tracking them against a series of learning objectives >>>> (as we do with coursework curriculum "they have passed this unit, let's >>>> offer them some new units that build on that"). So, using newbies as an >>>> example, we look for some threshold of surviving-edits that demonstrate >>>> skills like "add text", "format text", "add list element", "make links", >>>> "make piped links", "add citation", "add templated citations", "use a >>>> template", "edit an infobox", "add an infobox", write on their talk page, >>>> write on an article talk page, write on another user's talk page, add to >>>> their own user page, etc. The idea being to suggest as various competencies >>>> are attained how to add a new skill to their repertoire. Once they have >>>> acquired the basic how-to skills, we could look at the suggestions of where >>>> they might apply these skills and how to specialise their skills in various >>>> ways. >>>> >>>> Kerry >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPad >>>> >>>> On 21 Feb 2017, at 2:49 am, Pine W <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Research-l, >>>> >>>> A human resources problem that I am experiencing is a shortage of human >>>> resources of community members who are willing, available, and have the >>>> skills to work on a variety of useful initiatives. Is anyone on this list >>>> aware of research that talks about motivations of long-term contributors? >>>> In particular, I'd be interested in research that suggests ways to convert >>>> productive, relatively new editors (say, 50-500 edits) into long-term >>>> community members who are likely to develop into long-term, productive >>>> Wikimedians. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Pine >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wiki-research-l mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l >>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__lists.wikimedia.org_mailman_listinfo_wiki-2Dresearch-2Dl&d=CwMFaQ&c=yHlS04HhBraes5BQ9ueu5zKhE7rtNXt_d012z2PA6ws&r=5T1m457ccPNe4uGPnX3ndiOsilo26W92WAyBpZOEMJw&m=qKPDRIBgOqGr-Bq0dnZ3LnufGFsktd1-5-PaR1DtI_Y&s=OKPk_3UKPZjBtLNo7OROBsFBcUoOYOQ358RRQ6O5LtA&e=> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wiki-research-l mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l >>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__lists.wikimedia.org_mailman_listinfo_wiki-2Dresearch-2Dl&d=CwMFaQ&c=yHlS04HhBraes5BQ9ueu5zKhE7rtNXt_d012z2PA6ws&r=5T1m457ccPNe4uGPnX3ndiOsilo26W92WAyBpZOEMJw&m=qKPDRIBgOqGr-Bq0dnZ3LnufGFsktd1-5-PaR1DtI_Y&s=OKPk_3UKPZjBtLNo7OROBsFBcUoOYOQ358RRQ6O5LtA&e=> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wiki-research-l mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l >>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__lists.wikimedia.org_mailman_listinfo_wiki-2Dresearch-2Dl&d=CwMFaQ&c=yHlS04HhBraes5BQ9ueu5zKhE7rtNXt_d012z2PA6ws&r=5T1m457ccPNe4uGPnX3ndiOsilo26W92WAyBpZOEMJw&m=qKPDRIBgOqGr-Bq0dnZ3LnufGFsktd1-5-PaR1DtI_Y&s=OKPk_3UKPZjBtLNo7OROBsFBcUoOYOQ358RRQ6O5LtA&e=> >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wiki-research-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l >> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__lists.wikimedia.org_mailman_listinfo_wiki-2Dresearch-2Dl&d=CwMFaQ&c=yHlS04HhBraes5BQ9ueu5zKhE7rtNXt_d012z2PA6ws&r=5T1m457ccPNe4uGPnX3ndiOsilo26W92WAyBpZOEMJw&m=qKPDRIBgOqGr-Bq0dnZ3LnufGFsktd1-5-PaR1DtI_Y&s=OKPk_3UKPZjBtLNo7OROBsFBcUoOYOQ358RRQ6O5LtA&e=> >> >> >
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