Thanks. :) 

To be honest, I can't wait to replace the v1 version with this one... 
we're almost ready. A few things with interlanguage links and a few 
cleanup items left. Almost there....

John Q.




Marcus Havenner wrote:
> That is SO much better. I'll actually switch mine from monobook when 
> it is released. Great job!
>
> On 7/26/07, *John Q* < [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
>
>     Hi everyone,
>
>     Wanted to give you an idea of what the latest designs look like... we
>     spent *a lot* of time trying all sorts of variations to reduce the
>     size
>     of the header and take into account a lot of the other feedback we
>     got.
>
>     To be honest, doing this was pretty hard. There's the stuff you guys
>     needed us to do and the stuff we needed to do for future features and
>     growth... and trying to get all of that to fit in, look ok, and
>     function
>     pretty well took a while of rev and rev and rev. At this point, the
>     feedback I'm looking for is if we've missed anything major. I'm pretty
>     sure I got everything... the header size is reduced, the wiki logo
>     is in
>     a more prominent position again, the article comes back up the page,
>     we're over to the right and in the footer.
>
>     Probably the biggest change is to the dimensions of the wiki logo... I
>     asked around among some admins whether whether dimensional changes
>     there
>     were even a viable option and everyone said they were open to it,
>     so we
>     went forward with that (more detail on this later). Below you'll
>     find a
>     summary of the various things...
>
>     Header
>     ---------
>
>     Previously, the header size was constrained by two things... the Wikia
>     logo and the 150px-high wiki logo itself.
>
>       - Wikia logo now on the right.
>       - Key wiki links moved into more prominent position. Four main links
>     common to all wikis, four custom links, additional custom links
>     can be
>     in a sidebar box.
>       - We still have top content links for visitors (click rates indicate
>     they did find them useful)... but in a box that's dismissable for
>     users.
>       - Wiki logo reduced vertically but extended horizontally. The
>     dimensional area is a bit larger than the typical 130x150 logo size.
>     We'll start helping some wikis translate their logo into the new space
>     but it's too much work for us to do everything, so I've also been in
>     touch with a community member about spearheading a group to help with
>     logos (either missing logos or translating them to this new dimension)
>     and we're looking into programmatic solutions, too. I hope to be
>     able to
>     announce something there soon.
>
>     Article, ad, and footer
>     ----------------------
>
>       - The article controls come back around the article. There is no
>     "This
>     Article" box.
>       - Recent changes, special pages, etc. are in the tools box. That
>     box
>     can be moved higher.
>       - We have a 300x100 ad on there now for logged-in users and will
>     still
>     have the 300x250 for visitors. We still have some playing around to do
>     to figure out if the 300x100's are viable. We might split it in
>     two or
>     it might go back to the 180x150... no answer yet until the testing
>     is done.
>       - Also, we spotted some really annoying ads on the site recently
>     (audio or continuous distracting movement) and we shut off that ad
>     provider until they fixed it. We do need ads to survive and grow
>     (I can
>     hear the collective sigh from here) but we're trying to be civil
>     about it.
>       - We have our footer and some link columns down at the bottom.
>     We use
>     these for a variety of purposes including link exchanges to get your
>     wiki on other good sites to bring in traffic and users for you. We'll
>     get a page in place so that you have links of your choosing in one of
>     these columns.
>
>
>     Coming soon
>     -----------------
>
>       - There will be one skin name and people will be able to choose
>     between a "custom" color scheme and 12 preset color schemes (including
>     slate/smoke). Choosing "custom" will just pull the CSS from
>     "skinname.css" like normal. Choosing a preset color scheme is for
>     those
>     who want some color but don't want to learn CSS just yet. Admins
>     will be
>     able to set the default new skin color schemes (one of the 12 or
>     custom)
>     for their visitors. We also envision a page on http://inside.wikia.com
>     where we can have galleries of user submitted choices ...similar to
>     what's found on wikimedia sites and then admins or users can just
>     cut-n-paste that code when they choose "custom".
>
>     As I said above, getting all the elements to fit comfortably wasn't
>     easy... so at this point we're looking for major omissions in
>     functionality from the previous version of this skin rather than small
>     tweaks to fonts/colors/spacing/etc.
>
>     Looking forward to hearing what you think. :)
>
>     Thanks,
>     John Q.
>
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