https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6455
--- Comment #120 from Happy-melon <happy-me...@live.com> 2010-11-21 11:44:02 UTC --- (In reply to comment #119) > The non-volunteer devs *work for* the WMF. If the WMF decides to listen to > the > community (and that's a big if), I don't think the devs can reasonably say no. > > What's more, the developers are primarily responsible for making functionality > the community wants available to the community. They aren't doing that here, > and that's a Bad Thing. You're confusing developers (who write code for new features) with sysadmins (who manage the servers and turn features on and off). The developers are their own community around their own project: the MediaWiki software. That community is structured slightly differently to a wiki community (there is a clear hierarchy of authority and other different ways of doing things) but fundamentally it is a volunteer project like any of the WMF's others: developers code things that interest them. Most developers work on areas of MediaWiki which will be of use on Wikimedia wikis, as seeing their code in action on the world's 6th largest website is the most tangible reward for their time, but neither the paid nor unpaid devs are beholden to the other WMF communities (and please remember that enwiki is just one of 800 such groups); any more than one wiki community is beholden to another. Many developers work on parts of MediaWiki which will never be installed on Wikimedia wikis. To say that ""the developers are primarily responsible for making functionality the community wants available to the community"" is arrogant and false. The *sysadmins*, most (but not all) of whom are also active developers, are the ones who decide which components of MediaWiki are installed on WMF wikis. There is a strict hierarchy amongst sysadmins, and most of them are WMF paid staff. They *are* expected to take the communities' sentiments into account when making changes, and they are indeed accountable to the Foundation. The sysadmin you're talking about here reports directly to the Foundations' CTO; the CTO reports to the CEO, and the CEO reports to the board. The sysadmin who has made this decision is 'above' 90% of the Foundations' paid staff in the organisational hierarchy. Where, exactly, are you planning to go to get this decision overturned? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. _______________________________________________ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
