https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30208
--- Comment #8 from Snottywong <[email protected]> 2011-08-04 22:14:56 UTC --- I have a few comments and a question. First the comments: I want to put things in perspective. I did an analysis of all new articles created from January-May 2011 (see [[en:User:Snottywong/Article creation stats]]). The analysis shows that nearly three-quarters of articles created by non-autoconfirmed users get deleted. Compare this to autoconfirmed users, where about 18% of new articles get deleted. If we extrapolate this out, it means that non-autoconfirmed users create about 191 articles per day (which don't eventually get deleted), whereas autoconfirmed users create about 2,272 articles per day (which don't eventually get deleted). My point in laying all these stats on you is this: even if this trial was a complete and utter failure, and it ended up causing 100% of non-autoconfirmed users who want to create a new article to give up and not try [[en:WP:AFC]] or make a userspace draft or wait 4 days or whatever... the worst that would happen is that the creation rate of decent new articles would temporarily decline by 8% for 6 months. And that's an extremely unlikely, absolute worst case scenario. Of course, there are other factors like attracting less new editors and such, but I just wanted to put this entire trial into perspective; it's not THAT big of a change. Also, I still haven't seen any specific comments about what is broken about the current Articles for Creation / Article Wizard system. Anonymous editors use this system quite regularly; it's not unusual to see 100 new articles proposed via AFC in a single day. If anyone can identify what specifically needs to be fixed with this system, then maybe we can address it. I believe it's a well-tuned system that is working just fine. We may want to recruit some more participants to review new articles when the trial is implemented, but apart from that I don't see much need for improvement. And now for my question: Where do we go from here? We have a proposal which ran for 2 months on enwiki where 300-400 editors supported the idea of this trial. And now that we're trying to implement it, we have a few devs with vague, non-specific criticism of the Articles for Creation system, who apparently are hesitant/unwilling to implement the trial. How do we resolve this? What do we need to do to get this trial implemented? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. _______________________________________________ Wikibugs-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
