https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30208

--- Comment #17 from Chad H. <[email protected]> 2011-08-05 14:51:24 UTC 
---
(In reply to comment #15)
> Note to shell users:  This bug is controversial; please do not implement at
> this time.

There's pretty clear consensus on-wiki for this, after spending some time
skimming the RfC.

@Snottywong: I'm not opposed to doing this from the technical perspective, and
many of the comments here have addressed the concerned I had raised above
(comment 7). But as Brandon points out in comment 13, this has the potential of
being very contentious (not just within enwiki), so I want to make sure before
proceeding.

(In reply to comment #16)
> Frankly, I'm appalled by the way this request has been handled.  You seem to 
> be
> more interested in the WMF's goals of editor engagement, and not interested at
> all in Wikipedia's core policy on consensus.  Is this really the way Wikipedia
> works when you pull back the curtains?  A proposal can get clear consensus 
> from
> 300-400 editors, but then a couple of developers can trump that consensus
> because they don't like the idea?  Do you believe that the editors who
> supported this proposal were not aware of the WMF's goals for editor 
> engagement
> when they voted for it?  Do you believe that you are smarter and/or know 
> better
> than the editors who supported this idea?  How did you come to the conclusion
> that the consensus for this proposal is "not strong enough"?  How many more
> supporting votes would it have taken for the consensus to be "strong enough"?
> 

It has nothing to do with being smarter or setting unusually high barriers to
consensus. It's about /making sure/ the consensus is there and making sure that
such a change doesn't fly under the radar. Neither Brion nor I have at any
point said "NOWAY IS THIS HAPPENING," we just both want to make sure it's done
slowly, carefully and correctly :)

> I have contacted the WMF in the hopes that this request will be fulfilled in a
> timely manner, without a discussion on the political aspects of the request
> (which has already happened in a 2-month-long discussion on enwiki).

Who did you contact, so I can also contact that person and we can get the ball
rolling as needed?

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