https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30208

--- Comment #18 from The Blade of the Northern Lights <[email protected]> 
2011-08-05 15:23:29 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #17)
> (In reply to comment #15)
> > Note to shell users:  This bug is controversial; please do not implement at
> > this time.
> There's pretty clear consensus on-wiki for this, after spending some time
> skimming the RfC.
> @Snottywong: I'm not opposed to doing this from the technical perspective, and
> many of the comments here have addressed the concerned I had raised above
> (comment 7). But as Brandon points out in comment 13, this has the potential 
> of
> being very contentious (not just within enwiki), so I want to make sure before
> proceeding.
> (In reply to comment #16)
> > Frankly, I'm appalled by the way this request has been handled.  You seem 
> > to be
> > more interested in the WMF's goals of editor engagement, and not interested 
> > at
> > all in Wikipedia's core policy on consensus.  Is this really the way 
> > Wikipedia
> > works when you pull back the curtains?  A proposal can get clear consensus 
> > from
> > 300-400 editors, but then a couple of developers can trump that consensus
> > because they don't like the idea?  Do you believe that the editors who
> > supported this proposal were not aware of the WMF's goals for editor 
> > engagement
> > when they voted for it?  Do you believe that you are smarter and/or know 
> > better
> > than the editors who supported this idea?  How did you come to the 
> > conclusion
> > that the consensus for this proposal is "not strong enough"?  How many more
> > supporting votes would it have taken for the consensus to be "strong 
> > enough"?
> > 
> It has nothing to do with being smarter or setting unusually high barriers to
> consensus. It's about /making sure/ the consensus is there and making sure 
> that
> such a change doesn't fly under the radar. Neither Brion nor I have at any
> point said "NOWAY IS THIS HAPPENING," we just both want to make sure it's done
> slowly, carefully and correctly :)
> > I have contacted the WMF in the hopes that this request will be fulfilled 
> > in a
> > timely manner, without a discussion on the political aspects of the request
> > (which has already happened in a 2-month-long discussion on enwiki).
> Who did you contact, so I can also contact that person and we can get the ball
> rolling as needed?

I believe he's referring to Philippe.

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