I'm not sure if that kind of data will be desirable at Wikidata (not my
personal opinion, just thinking about community).

For example, a lot of city articles contain info about temperature and
precipitation[1], but, are we going to import into Wikidata all the
temperature values from 1900 to present? (daily averages? minute-by minute?)

I don't know what are the limits of Wikidata, but, we need some limits to
work, probably.

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madrid#Climate

2012/4/4 Leukippos Institute <[email protected]>

> Hi Sridhar,
>
> Nice to hear from you. I hope we can find many scientist to discuss this
> with us. We need a wide support from the scientific community, because we
> need to agree on a standardized format for data submission.
>
> I would like to know what other scientist think about the semantic web
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semantic_Web
> as a structure to build a common data pool in which we publish directly
> our data?
>
> I had an interesting discussion with David 
> Bikard<http://www.facebook.com/david.bikard> on
> this subject on G+ Have a look here http://bit.ly/GWdmX4
>
> David provided some interesting links:
> http://biocyc.org/
> http://linkeddata.org/
> http://semanticweb.org/
> stackexchange.com
>
> Best
> Gerd
>
> On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 4:23 PM, Sridhar Gutam <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Gerd and brought out an important discussion. there is lots of
>> data underutilized in agricultural research too. under the current research
>> on climate change, we need to bring out the data stored in individual
>> desktops and published literature for meaningful analysis.
>>
>> I am also looking for the opportunity work with the community on
>> development of platforms, mechanisms and advocay for open access to data.
>>
>> wikidata project would be best to work with...
>>
>> sridhar
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>>
>>
>> On 4 April 2012 19:42, Leukippos Institute <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi!
>>>
>>> I am a synthetic biologist. I see big changes in the way we do science
>>> and how we will publish in the future.
>>>
>>> I see a huge need to publish all scientific data (especially raw data)
>>> in a common free accessible data pool. This data should be machine
>>> readable. We face in science huge data amounts, huge number of
>>> publications. Nobody is longer able to read all the literature. We
>>> need a computer assisted system to analyze these data and develop
>>> novel concepts from them. We need a structuring of these data on a
>>> higher abstraction level. We need to be able to go from abstraction to
>>> detail.
>>>
>>> Thus I see the Wiki data project of potentially big value for
>>> scientist. I would like that this project could serve in that manner
>>> the scientific community and provide standards for submission of data
>>> for scientist. Any plans in this direction?
>>>
>>> A bit more about the reasons, why I find this very important:
>>>
>>> I would summarize the upcoming trend in science as this: From
>>> Hypothesis to Data-Driven Research, or the End of the Age of Science,
>>> and the Dawn of the Age of Systemics. We can observe a paradigm change
>>> in science, and two computer developments are responsible. The first
>>> is the enormous storage capacity in the cloud. The second is that a
>>> huge number of computers have been connected and organized in social
>>> networks. These changes have resulted in huge quantities of data and
>>> complex systems, a problem normal science cannot solve. The
>>> traditional hypothesis method can deal with simple correlations
>>> between A and B. But the method fails if the problem becomes more
>>> complex. Science has been synonymous with a separating, reductionistic
>>> approach. Contemporary science has come to a point where we will
>>> change the perspective from reductionism to holism. We now move to a
>>> position that sees things together: short systemics. The data-driven
>>> science approach changes the scientific method and results in a
>>> practice called "science 2.0" (named after web 2.0). "Science" will
>>> happen in the cloud, with new publishing formats such as direct
>>> publishing on blogs and direct publishing of our data in a human and
>>> computer readable database, new and fast ways of collaboration in
>>> social networks, and systems theory as the new "science" paradigm.
>>> Systems theory is already important in fields such as systems biology
>>> and its practical application synthetic biology.see NextGen VOICES,
>>> Science 6 January 2012: vol. 335 no. 6064 pp. 36-38 DOI:
>>> 10.1126/science.335.6064.36
>>> http://www.sciencemag.org/content/335/6064/36/suppl/DC1
>>>
>>> Best
>>> Gerd
>>>
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