Am 10.03.2014 13:50, schrieb Gerard Meijssen: > Hoi, > There is little point to integrating Wiktionary and the current proposal if it > is unclear how that information is going to be used.
It's going to be used as a dictionary and thesaurus, just like Wiktionary. > The proposal for all its > fancy words misses the point completely and you point it out really well: it > is > unclear how lexemes will interact in the UI and in search. But the conceptual relationship between lexemes, senses, and items is well defined. It's just the UI details that need to be sorted out. They could be integrated with aliases and labels "somehow", but I have no clear idea of what should look like yet. > The current labels will one on one coincide with lexemes. I think we can agree > on this. No. There will be a lot of lexemes that will not be used as labels for data items (just as there are many words/meanings on Wikionary with no Wikipedia article), and there will be some labels that are not lexemes (like most names of People and Places, and also perhaps common misspellings). -- daniel > Thanks, > GerardM > > > On 10 March 2014 12:43, Daniel Kinzler <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > Am 08.03.2014 11:22, schrieb Gerard Meijssen: > > At this moment there is a start of having "badges". They are at this > stage > basic > > information on the article level. It demonstrates that we CAN have > information > > that is beyond statements. It is arguably not sufficient, an argument > made in > > bug 40810#c38. > > Badges are editorial information (they say somthine about an article in > the > Wikimedia universe), they don't say anthing about the entity itself. IF > they > did, they would be (part of) statements. > > > When Wiktionary is to be integrated, labels are what Wiktionary is > about. This > > should be obvious, The argument is that we can leave labels for now. It > requires > > revisiting in the not to far off future. > > This is not how Wiktionary integration is going to work. At all. Please > read the > proposal: <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Wiktionary>. This has > nothing > to do with labels, precisely because we need labels to be simple. The > proposal > does not detail how lexemes interact with items in the UI and in search - > that's > still open, and that's exactly where the things you have been mentionen > will > have their place. That'S going to be a lot more powerful and flexible than > trying to glue extra attributes to labels. > > -- daniel > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikidata-l mailing list > > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l > > > > > -- > Daniel Kinzler > Senior Software Developer > > Wikimedia Deutschland > Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. > > _______________________________________________ > Wikidata-l mailing list > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikidata-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l > -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. _______________________________________________ Wikidata-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
