Hello, Yes I might not use the right term here especially if you use it already in a different context. What I mean is that it would be good to have list of properties that can be used for a given thing. For instance if you want to describe a painting here the list of properties you can use. https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_sum_of_all_paintings points to a page listing some properties that can be used for painting but not all of them.
Best, Valentine 2015-04-07 15:15 GMT+02:00 Daniel Kinzler <[email protected]>: > > I'm confused by your use of the term "template" here. In the context of > MediaWiki, "template" refers to a bit of wikitext that can be parametrized > and > re-used, e.g. to make info-boxes. > > If I understand correctly, what you mean is a kind of schema saying which > properties can and should be present on items of which type. The Wikibase > software has no concept of such schemas, on Wikidata such schemas are > defined > and enforced by convention only. > > For the sake of clarity, I suggest to use the term "schema convention" for > this, > to avoid confusion with wikitext templates. > > Am 07.04.2015 um 13:12 schrieb Valentine Charles: > > Hello, > > > > I wanted to get an overview of all the properties used boy the instance > Painting > > (https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q3305213) for further mapping with the > Europeana > > Data Model. > > My initial thought that I would find a representative list > > at > http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Visual_arts/Item_structure > > but in fact I have found much more properties used in association with > painting. > > So I was wondering whether it would be a good idea to update the template > > mentioned above with the additional properties. > > I think it would be really interesting for GLAMs to have access to to > > representative templates listing all the properties used for a given > type of > > objects. It would help them to understand Wikidata and to compare it > with their > > own data. I think it would also help mappings activities. I on behalf of > > Europeana would be happy to help in this task and also facilitate the > > discussions with GLAMs around Wikidata. > > > > What do you think? > > > > Best wishes, > > Valentine > > > > 2015-04-04 23:45 GMT+02:00 Stas Malyshev <[email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]>>: > > > > Hi! > > > > > For things that actually *are* free text, and not terribly long, a > monolongual > > > (or, in the future, multilingual) text property could be used. > "quote" already > > > exists, "abstract" could be added, pending community discussion. > Length > > > limitations can be adjusted if need be. > > > > Maybe if the need of bigger texts arises we can have separate field > > type? Right now the storage model is not very good for storing texts > of > > non-negligible sizes, especially multilingual ones (x800 languages). > > OTOH, we have a type that allows us to use multimedia by integrating > > with Commons. So maybe the same idea with using some other wiki - > > quotes? sources? for bigger text snippets would work too? Just > > brainstorming here :) > > > > > What I was warning against is continuing the misuse of text fields > for > > > semi-structured or even fully structured data that I have often > seen in GLAM > > > meta-data. That kind of thing should not be copied to Wikidata. > > > > Right. I think it may be useful here to understand which kinds of > text > > we're talking about which can't be structured but are big enough to > > cause concern. I.e. if it's quotes - we already have wikiquote, > right? Etc. > > > > -- > > Stas Malyshev > > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikidata-l mailing list > > [email protected] <mailto: > [email protected]> > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikidata-l mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l > > > > > -- > Daniel Kinzler > Senior Software Developer > > Wikimedia Deutschland > Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. > > _______________________________________________ > Wikidata-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l >
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