Lydia,

If I'm not wront the substituion scenario covers your requirements

{{#property:Pxxx}}                             ==SUBST BY
==>{{#property:Pxxx|label="main label at the time of substitution"}}
{{#property:MainLabelAtSubsTime}}  ==SUBST BY
==>{{#property:Pxxx|label="main label at the time of substitution"}}
{{#property:UnambiuousAliasAtSubsTime}}  ==SUBST BY
==>{{#property:Pxxx|label="unambiguous alias at subst time"}}
{{#property:AmbiuousAliasAtSubsTime}}  ==SUBST BY ==>{{ERROR}} ==> hence
the editor can fix it

It looks like covering most of cases without adding extra burden of unicity
and keeping existing mechanism

Mohamed





On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 10:50 PM, Lydia Pintscher <
[email protected]> wrote:

> On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 10:39 PM, Daniel Kinzler
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Am 09.07.2015 um 14:22 schrieb Thomas Douillard:> Substitution is a
> standard
> > mechanism in MediaWiki and would achive what Gerard
> >> needs ... for example:
> >> "{{subst:property_prime|date of birth}}" could be expanded and
> substituted to
> >> "{{#property:Pxxx}} <--date of birth-->"  and everything would be
> stored in the
> >> Wikitext. What's wrong with this kind of solution exactly ? you did not
> >> elaborate on that.
> >
> > There is nothing wrong with that. If people on the client wikis think
> this is
> > sufficient, and the {{#property}} parser function does not need to
> support
> > "named" access to properties, that would be fine with me. So far, I
> assumed that
> > it would be very annoying to be forced to rely on IDs when using
> {{#property}}.
> > But if that is fine with everybody, that's fine with me - supporting
> only P-ids
> > there is much simpler than allowing access via labels or aliases.
>
> Accessing only via the property's ID isn't enough.
> Folks, we want more usage of Wikidata on the Wikipedias and other
> sister projects. There'll be a few bullets we have to bite to make
> this happen. I am convinced this is one of them.
>
>
> Cheers
> Lydia
>
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