Thank you for the answers!

Magnus: I would be really happy to have the functionality in one of them. I
wasn't familiar with the Dynamic lists, it seems handy!

James: I have not yet started with SPARQL but I cannot wait to get started.
It will make a lot of sense to make a really complex query and then edit
the items with the handy update tools.

And yes. I have been planning to challenge Finnish GLAMmers to indulge in
Wikidata by adding the "official", settled labels for well-known paintings.
Art historians and curators know them best.

Thanks for your help!

Susanna

2015-11-17 16:23 GMT+02:00 James Heald <[email protected]>:

> Hi Susanna,
>
> Here is a query for paintings with no label in Finnish:
>
>
> PREFIX wikibase: <http://wikiba.se/ontology#>
> PREFIX wd: <http://www.wikidata.org/entity/>
> PREFIX wdt: <http://www.wikidata.org/prop/direct/>
> PREFIX rdfs: <http://www.w3.org/2000/01/rdf-schema#>
>
> SELECT DISTINCT ?item ?itemLabel ?creatorLabel WHERE {
>   ?item wdt:P31/wdt:P279* wd:Q3305213 .
>   ?item wdt:P170 ?creator .
>   FILTER NOT EXISTS {?item rdfs:label ?item_label filter
> (lang(?item_label) = "fi")}
>
>   SERVICE wikibase:label {
>      bd:serviceParam wikibase:language "en" .
>   }
>
> } LIMIT 1000
>
>
> You can run it on the query editor here: http://tinyurl.com/olosxow
>
> but to work with Reasonator, a nicer thing to do is to paste the query
> text into PagePile,
>    https://tools.wmflabs.org/pagepile/?menu=new
>
> and then once you have created the pile, choose "Autolist 2" from the
> drop-down list of tools to use the list in, and then hit "Run" on the
> Autolist page that comes up, and that will give you the list with links to
> Reasonator (the little coloured gear icon).
>
> As far as I know, there is no way to get Reasonator to step through a list
> of pages automatically, but if you go down the list from Autolist in groups
> of ten, right-clicking each Reasonator link into a new tab, then you should
> be able fairly efficiently to do the Reasonator stuff all together, before
> going back and opening another ten tabs, etc.
>
>
> One question: will you need to know the "official" name of the painting in
> Finnish ?
>
> I know there were some people on de-wiki who got unhappy when some labels
> were added in German that were volunteers' individual translations, which
> they weren't sure matched the usual attested German name for the work (so
> looked quite strange on an auto-generated page presenting the artist's
> works).
>
> Is that going to be a concern?  Or is there a fairly standard vocabulary
> for transposing the names of works?
>
> (I suppose another option would be to modify the query slightly, to just
> give a list of one artist's works with no Finnish label; and then compare
> that to a reference list in Finnish, which may exist for some of the more
> prominent artists.)
>
> All best,
>
>   --  James.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 17/11/2015 10:28, Susanna Ånäs wrote:
>
>> I would like to display lists of untranslated painting names by Finnish
>> painters, or missing labels in strange languages. Using the magnificent
>> WiDaR hover featured in Reasonator and a language fallback, the task would
>> be enjoyable. Is there a way?
>>
>> Susanna
>>
>>
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